Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
yuff
- 04 May 2010 14:29
- 1723 of 6906
fahel-a proper read.
Netanyahu at his best
Even those who aren't particularly sympathetic to Israel's Benjamin
Netanyahu, could get a good measure of satisfaction from this
interview with British Television during the retaliation against
Hamas' shelling of Israel.
The interviewer asked him: "How come so many more Palestinians have
been killed in this conflict than Israelis?" (A nasty question if
there ever was one!)
Netanyahu: "Are you sure that you want to start asking in that direction?"
Interviewer: (Falling into the trap) Why not?
Netanyahu: "Because in World War II more Germans were killed than
British and Americans combined, but there is no doubt in anyone's
mind that the war was caused by Germany 's aggression. And in
response to the German blitz on London, the British wiped out the
entire city of Dresden, burning to death more German civilians than
the number of people killed in Hiroshima ... Moreover, I could
remind you that in 1944, when the R.A.F. tried to bomb the Gestapo
Headquarters in Copenhagen, some of the bombs missed their target and
fell on a Danish children's hospital, killing 83 little children.
Perhaps you have another question?"
Apparently, Benjamin Netanyahu gave another interview and was asked
about Israel 's occupation of Arab lands. His response was, "It's
our land". The reporter (CNN or the like) was stunned - read below
"It's our land..." It's important information since we don't get fair
and accurate reporting from the media and facts tend to get lost in
the jumble of daily events.
"Crash Course on the Arab-Israeli Conflict."
Here are overlooked facts in the current & past Middle Eastsituation.
These were compiled by a Christian university professor:
BRIEF FACTS ON THE ISRAELI CONFLICT TODAY... (It takes just 1.5
minutes to read!)
It makes sense and it's not slanted. Jew and non-Jew -- it doesn't matter.
1. Nationhood and Jerusalem: Israel became a nation in 1312 BC,
two thousand (2000) years before the rise of Islam.
2... Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a
Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the
modern State of Israel.
3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BC, the Jews have had dominion
over the land for one thousand (1000) years with a continuous presence
in the land for the past 3,300 years.
4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 lasted no more
than 22 years.
5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital.
Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity.
Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to
make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy
Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.
7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to
Jerusalem.
8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward
Jerusalem .
9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: in 1948 the Arab refugees were
encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge
theland of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left (many in fear of
retaliation by their own brethren, the Arabs), without ever seeing an
Israeli soldier. The ones who stayed were afforded the same peace,
civility, and citizenship rights as everyone else.
10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to
Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.
11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated
to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands
is estimated to be the same.
12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into
the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory.
Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only
refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or
integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were
completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of
New Jersey ...
13. The Arab-Israeli Conflict: the Arabs are represented by eight
separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one
Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost.
Israel defended itself each time and won.
14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of
Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land,
autonomy under the
Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.
15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the
Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all
Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to
people of all faiths.
16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council
resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.
17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429
were directed against Israel .
18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem synagogues were destroyed by
the Jordanians.
19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated
the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives .
20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like
a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the
Western Wall.
Camelot
- 04 May 2010 14:44
- 1724 of 6906
just think what might have been had the arabs decided to work within international law
honi soit ......
ahoj
- 04 May 2010 15:04
- 1725 of 6906
Sorry guys, but I think you are wasting your time.
Enjoy your life while you are young - life is more beautiful than you ever imagine. The basis for all religons are the same. We should not fight for land, but live like a human (as opposed to an animal).
Sorry again!
fahel
- 05 May 2010 09:56
- 1726 of 6906
Someone was supposed to be a terrorist !!!
www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-LIpAxjPt9U
fahel
- 05 May 2010 16:15
- 1727 of 6906
A 6 minutes documentory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gymxY2zM8
Blunt, naked truth in a bombshell. Terrifying declarations.
Haystack
- 05 May 2010 16:42
- 1728 of 6906
I see that the Palestinians are getting smarter. They are boycotting Israeli goods especially produce grown on illegal settlements. They are seizing produce at the border and destroying melons etc. They are also planning to imprison Paletinians helping to build settlements on illegally occupied land. The Israeli response is predictably absurd. Israel is saying that it is an attack on Israel and it is similar to Nazis destroying Jewish goods in Germany! Comments like that only serve to make Israel look even more ridiculous.
yuff
- 05 May 2010 17:39
- 1729 of 6906
I thought the Palestinians in gaza are starving-or is it Arab propaganda again? Yet they destroy food at the borders.How strange is that??
yuff
- 05 May 2010 17:48
- 1730 of 6906
Jesus H Christ fahel-I watched in disgust the propaganda video. so much false statements. The refugees left and were not forced out. Sharon had nothing to do with sabra and Shatill-and you know it.The shanty towns in Jordan and Lebanon are still there because it is a tool for the paletinians to infiltrate those countries and cause misery to the Lebanese and Jordanian citizens. have you forgotten how good King hussein kicked the palestinians out of Jordan? And where did they go-lebanon and what happened then-a civil war.
the paelstinians are not wanted by any Arab country. Those that remained in israel prefer to live there.
We have Palestinian Muslims in london causing outrage. They too should be kicked out before we end up like Beirut.
Palestinians are trouble.Full stop.
yuff
- 05 May 2010 17:50
- 1731 of 6906
Lest you forget fahel.
Arab and Jewish Refugees: in 1948 the Arab refugees were
encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge
theland of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left (many in fear of
retaliation by their own brethren, the Arabs), without ever seeing an
Israeli soldier. The ones who stayed were afforded the same peace,
civility, and citizenship rights as everyone else.
Fred1new
- 05 May 2010 18:17
- 1732 of 6906
Earlier, I receive this interesting E-mail from Gausie, whom I squelched over twelve months ago, as I thought his posting generally abusive about me, and equally abusive to others, when he disagreed with them. I saw no reason to be observant of what I saw, as deliberate attempts to be unpleasant.
A short time ago, I received the E-mail below from him, suggesting that I had made veiled threats to other BB posters.
I am not aware of making any such threatening remark, within the last twenty years or so, but I am interested to know, if anybody has felt personally threatened by any of my postings, on this thread, or any other Moneyam thread.
If so, and you draw my attention to such, I will reconsider the remarks.
However, I consider the content of the E-mail (see below), is deliberately unpleasant and abusive and is covertly threatening.
It seems to me that some posters are intolerant to views, or opinions, which do not concur with their own.
I wonder what the intentions of the E-mail was and whether others have received similar.
One can see why there is so much violence in the world.
(Of course, my opinion is not necessarily correct.)
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In The Land of the B
- 05 May 2010 18:45
- 1733 of 6906
Oh Nick (fred), the martyr rolling his eyes heavenwards going for the sympathy vote with his beatific smile.
I have to agree with the first line of that email. Actually that's quite polite. considering.
I don't know if you have made veiled threats, oh holy one, as I said I haven't looked at all your excrement.
As for haymaker, you are entitled to your opinions but Israel does not look one hundredth as ridiculous as you do.
As for fahel, he's just a fully paid up member of the propaganda machine.
yuff, is, as always, correct.
Poor West Bank economy, booming and expanding at 8% per year now that their government is trying to tackle extremism and concentrating on their people's economy and welfare............that's the untold story.
Fred1new
- 05 May 2010 20:12
- 1734 of 6906
"The ones who stayed were afforded the same peace, civility, and citizenship rights as everyone else."
Are you certain that the above is true?
It is strange that others disagree.
Camelot
- 05 May 2010 20:32
- 1735 of 6906
who disagrees ?
hilary
- 06 May 2010 08:09
- 1737 of 6906
Withdraw, Sir.
Isn't that what the actress allegedly said to the bishop?
:o)
Isaacs
- 06 May 2010 08:21
- 1738 of 6906
No it was Fred talking to Gordon.
hilary
- 06 May 2010 08:39
- 1739 of 6906
No, that was "Bend over further please, Sir".
Fred1new
- 06 May 2010 09:57
- 1741 of 6906
Hilary, another one of you little phantasies!
Your really do have such a fantastic imagination.
Why don't you hold Issacs's hand and help him out?
Have "fun" together.
In The Land of the B
- 06 May 2010 10:57
- 1742 of 6906
"Withdraw, Sir.
Isn't that what the actress allegedly said to the bishop?"
Bit out of date, that.
It's what the choir boy said to the priest.
Nick,
Well at least she has an imagination and wit (new word for you, check it out on dictionary.com) and doesn't regurgitate propaganda and hatred like you and your two camp followers.
There seems to be a suggestion that Gordon Brown is homosexual......that's not a crime anymore, so leave him alone.
Just like Sarah does.
No wonder she always has that pained expression on her face.