goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 26 Jun 2012 18:00
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The UK is not particularly overcrowded anymore than London is. Paris has a much higher density of people than London.
It is also surprising to note that we could easily get the entire population of the world onto the Isle of Wight. The big problem for the world is not the size of the population, but the resources to service and feed it.
Fred1new
- 26 Jun 2012 18:05
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Perhaps, I am referring to tinted glasses.
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Some wear "smoke-tinted" glasses, some "rose-tinted" glasses.
I have been given "dark glasses", to stop me seeing too much.
8-)
Dreams,
Have a look at proctologist.
That is a real winner at a party.
chuckles
- 26 Jun 2012 18:24
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Fred1new saidI think the main cause of the public's "depression" is due to watching this stumbling government taking the country further and further into debt and tinkering around the outsides of the minor problems.
Can you substantiate that comment with facts? Maybe the actual debt figure when Labour exited power and the situation today? How much additional debt have the coalition created or even paid back?
Fred1new
- 26 Jun 2012 19:11
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Chuckles,
You are a big boy.
Do your own homework or pay my fees.
dreamcatcher
- 26 Jun 2012 19:16
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Come on Fred answer the question. lol
Fred1new
- 26 Jun 2012 19:31
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Do you sign all your postings as above.
Nice image!
Is it a good likeness.?
Perhaps, it could answer your problems.
I am not sure whether he/she is puzzled or thoughtful.
8-)
2517GEORGE
- 26 Jun 2012 20:24
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chuckles, it's a fact that the national debt has increased during the current administration. I have no idea to what extent, but there was no avoiding it, the Labour gov left nothing, they had spent the lot, and joked about it. Welfare payments thanks to Labour policy of aiming for a bedrock of voters, went spirralling out of control, and the economy, and therefore the tax take was down. So austerity and borrowing are the result. Had Labour got in the ED Balls-up twins would have borrowed even more.
2517
dreamcatcher
- 26 Jun 2012 20:37
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Theres your answer Fred, that you would not answer.
doodlebug
- 26 Jun 2012 20:38
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Haystack, I was not talking about the cities in the UK particularly. OK if you want to live in a city it doesn't make any difference which city. France is a much bigger country than Britain and there are loads of places in France where you can escape to without spending your day sitting in traffic jams trying to get there. Actually I'm not sure where you get some of your statistics from? Quote -"It is also surprising to note that we could easily get the entire population of the world onto the Isle of Wight." Presumably that means eveyone standing together back to back, or toe to toe.
chuckles
- 26 Jun 2012 20:56
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George, I already knew the answer but was interested in fred1news take. I'm a political atheist, I have no allegiance to any party and will happily vote for who I think will do the best for the country. I can't understand anyone who is radically left, right or somewhere in between. Radicals are the bane of every society in the world. They don't listen to other views, won't change their stance and prevent progress. Even from the few posts I have read on this thread, fred1new has a thing about the cons and libdems and doesn't seem shy of posting disingenuous comments. I said before this was an odd thread, fred1new posted 'may you drown in your own bile', hypocritical in the extreme as every political post he makes contains nothing but bile.
So far I've noted that tanker is nuts and fred1new is a hypocritical, political radical who doesn't seem to understand the effect of exchange rate fluctuations on exports and imports. Everyone else by comparison seems quite sensible!
chuckles
- 26 Jun 2012 20:58
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skinny
- 27 Jun 2012 05:30
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Assad says Syria at war as battle reaches capital
BEIRUT | Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:00am BST
(Reuters) - Syrian President Bashar al-Assad declared on Tuesday that his country was at war and ordered his new government to spare no effort to achieve victory, as the worst fighting of the 16-month conflict reached the outskirts of the capital.
aldwickk
- 27 Jun 2012 08:07
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chuckles
Agree 100% at what you say , it didn't take you long to suss them out.
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2012 08:19
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all that is wrong with the uk just look at the BBC it shoulkd be closed down .
I have always paid my taxes and been happy to pay but not now with all these immigrants living off my back and the other good people in the uk,
send them back home be like aussies 6they have it correct.
we just let the sub humans in
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2012 08:26
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if there are people unemployed then no immigrant should be allowed in .
and stop family allowance after two kids . stop all houseing benefits .
over 80pounds aweek it stopping them looking for work .
then they would take a job
skinny
- 27 Jun 2012 08:34
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Gunmen storm Pro-Assad Syrian TV channel
(Reuters) - Gunmen broke through the gates of a pro-government Syrian TV channel headquarters on Wednesday, bombing buildings and shooting dead three employees, state media said, in one of the boldest attacks yet on a symbol of the authoritarian state.
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2012 08:45
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just let them get on with it .uk keep out let turkey wipe them out
Fred1new
- 27 Jun 2012 10:33
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Chuckles,
I will try to be brief, but replies, other than the obvious, tend to be longer than the questions or challenges.
I am also a political atheist and never been a supporter or member of any specific party, but have been interested in political issues since my early teens and watch¸(even flirted) with the political ideologies over that period.
I have respect for the values of many "leading" politicians of all the major parties, that includes Tory, Lib/Dem, Labour, and various Irish, Scottish and Welsh parties, but also I have been critical of the leadership, policies and drifts of all those parties and some of the ideologues of both the “left” and “right within those parties.
If you read previous postings prior to the last election, you will see that I was critical of Labour policies and legislation and amongst other things condemned PFIs. (Many were critical of my views then, but now are changing their opinions.).
I am scathing of the present government “leadership”, as seeing much of their policies and statement and posturing as political motivated and more to do with maintaining their positions within the hierarchy of their party than for the benefit of the country as a whole. (When in government, I think the leadership should be acting for the good of the government as a whole, not a fraction of it who “gave” or will “keep” them in power.)
One of my antagonisms to the present government is that it appears to be stoking up the “them and us” mentality of divide and rule. I would prefer a cohesive and relatively harmonious society.
The “welfare state” in “modern world” is I think a necessity. It has its problems, waste and abuses and sometimes policies and actions taken for the “best” reasons proved to be incorrect.
Also, there is wasted money, but sometimes what is labelled “waste” is based on personal “values” and “ignorance” of the “costs” of not doing similar.
But rather than destruction of the “welfare state”, I think it would be more sensible to moderate it by “evolution” the addressing the weaknesses and faults within it. (Gradual adjustments.)
But condemnation of the “less able, or less endowed” in society for “sponging” on the state, when many of the “elite” spend more on a week’s holiday island in the sun than they are drawing on the dole for a year is less than sensitive.
I think the present government is stoking up social and economic problems for the UK by its short term policies and shows little foresight.
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¬¬Bile.
I used the term in reference to “postings” made on “immigrants” etc..
The postings were, in my opinion, trying to deliberately incite “racial hatred”, and based on mistaken ideology, false information and were/are politically motivated.
My use of “bile” was deliberate, but substitute “bitterness” if you wish.
(I would prefer the poster not to make that type of remark, but with difficulty, respect his right to do so.)
Returning to scathing of this government, I would recommend reading the to-day’s press coverage for Osborne’s U-turn budget, now that the Murdoch Press/tory agreements have been torn up.
I don’t think I am alone in my opinions, but I am prepared to review them.
aldwickk
- 27 Jun 2012 10:35
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" I will try to be brief "
Tried and failed ....... what a surprise
Fred1new
- 27 Jun 2012 11:04
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A,
HO HO HO,
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For Tanks,
Bloke at a race track whispers to Paddy next to him, "do you want the winner of the next race?"
Paddy replies "no tanks, I wouldn’t have the room, I've only got a small garden."