for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

The only positive (or negative) response we are going to get now is from SEO themselves Eric. They have had a habit in the past of releasing good news prior to not so good/downright bad, news. We are creeping inexorably towards the moment of truth, well that is what we hope we will be given, Interims to 30th April were released on 3rd June in 2003, 28th June in 2004 and 29th June last year so it is any day now I suppose. They may hold back a bit longer this year whilst they iron out problems; I really hope that we do not see a pre release slice of good news - that would worry me as they have no need to give news until release at this stage. I am confident that SEO will survive in some form or other, they have too many irons in the fire, some of which will take a while to heat up!, so GD Potts need not be too worried.....but of course, against all odds, sometimes sh*t happens!
kim

Re "Green".
What we must remember is what is important to Asda / WM is not how green something is, but how green it is perceived to be by people with bulging purses and a desire to empty them. How green the marketing men can make it appear.
If the public could be convinced that the healthy and green alternative was carrots grown at Chernobyl wrapped in Asbestos containers, Asda / WM would sell them. If green was important they would close their out of town superstores and open several thousand corner shops so we could walk to do our shopping.
The WI bear this out. They have a bee in their hand knitted bonnets about packaging. Their individual buying power is nothing but their ability to bring it to peoples attention is powerful. As groups like this put on the pressure, then retailers will move to pacify them. But make no mistake. The greenest product will not be the winner. the winner will be the cost effective solution that can be most easily sold as green.
hence my comments last week that Asda had concerns over GM & transportation. The issue may not be a real one, as Terry said, but it is real in the minds of the public and for Starpol to be a success, it is all in the presentation.
Not by SEO to Asda, but by Saatchi & Saatchi (or whoever) to Coronation Street viewers during an 30 second commercial.
So will SEO benefit? Who knows. If an alternative that is cheaper and as demonstrably green comes along then no. Regardless of whether SEO have a much greener product.
I still think that SEO are a fair way in front of the pack, though.
Alan

Alan,

Your bit re carrots and chernobyl, and re they would close supermarkets and open corner shops, hits the preverbial nail right on the head. Companies such as Asda, Tesco and the like are 99% at least only interested in money. They will only go as green as what their customers demand. That is what will make them and us hopefully via SEO rich.
Well said.
Greek

Said similar myself - post 17171

As an observer only (SEO does not yet quite fit my investment profile of cash generation, rising profits and growing dividends!) this looks a classic case of whether those providing the cash run out of patience before the potential begins to be realised. Ringprop today shows they sometimes do,but it can go the other way too. FWIW I would hold if I had any, but make notional full provision in my own personal balance sheet!

Another day closer to some sort of news, the jigsaw is slowly being put together, but is that last piece in the box, or is it missing? I look forward to the next WI calendar, complete with strategically placed Greenseal trays. 'Calendar Girls go green'.
kim

A few updates on the Stanelco website now.

Now the product pages are much better.
The range looks very good and there are a few good selling points in there about costs and energy efficiency.
Frogpack looks better too, now in its full livery.
Alan

" the jigsaw is slowly being put together " how many times have i heard that.

If you think SEO is a long term hold, you should have sold out when you had the chance and put your money to better use untill they start to get some decent cash flow, if you had sold anywere between 16 and 28 pence you will still be able to buy back in more cheaply, i think that is what Andy Smyth said he is doing and you don't see him posting every day about silly bits of unrelated news such as the WI campaign, talk about clutching at straws.

aldwickk, take a look at the revamped website; a lot more info on there now. I can't make up my mind, having viewed the GreenSeal video, whether or not they are about to go into full scale production. It seems likely that they are, given the content - they are advertising to the entire manufacturing industry in a way that indicates they have sorted out all problems BUT, does that also infer that they will not be going ahead with a contract with WM? We will see. As for clutching at straws, well maybe but the new website, although still out of date on the opening page, is far, far better with a good insight into what SEO do and can become, with or without help from the WI! I have held since 3p, topped up at various stages and am still showing a healthy overall profit. I don't much care if I lose out with this share, though I would of course be peeved, it would not be the end of my world! I would be inclined to grab one of the straws now, good news will see a sharp increase in value IMO.
kim

aldwickk

'silly bits of unrelated news such as the WI campaign'

I dont know how you can say this is 'unrelated'!

'Packaging', 'biodegradable', 'supermarkets' - not related to SEO? Are we talking about the same SEO?

And it may surprise you to know that the quarter of a million or so WI members are predominantly women! Which sex does most supermarket shopping?

So, a quarter of a million supermarket shoppers mounting a campaign to persuade supermarkets to use biodegradable packaging - SEO are in negotiations and have a contract to supply ASDA with biodegradable packaging.

Still think it isn't relevant?

I wonder if QC did them a favour....or perhaps the placing was to pay for his services!

Like it or nor aldwickk, you will be seeing news relating to packaging, biodegrable etc long after SEO hit the big time/go bust, the latter highly unlikely; it IS all relevent and you will see the same on the SYM site and the same sort of thing on every site. Having had a moment to think about it (a rare moment these days) I do not consider any of it to be clutching at straws. 'Green' is the only way packaging is going these days and, in my view, it is a very large cake which can be sliced into many pieces, there is not a company on this earth that can eat the whole cake alone! So let's keep all the news coming no matter how distantly related it may seem to be at the time; if only to while away the time between news or the next football match!
kim

Garyble, I hope QC was already driving around in his new Bentley before the placing!!
kim

Hooray a website that "sort" of works and tells the world about what SEO do, the video is a bit amateur but at last we can see something and is informative. never heard off embroidery tape???? and nothing on fag filters?

now for the news

Haven't heard of the biodegradable computer operating system before either, but apparantly it degrades to a useless mush the moment it is exposed to data.
SEO believe it will challange Microsoft because it will last longer than Windows XP.

;-)
Alan

Just taken a look at the SEO website,certainly much improved and to all intent and purpose seo looks very productive just now.Heres hoping for news soon. good luck to all long term holders.Cheers.

If the new seo website is anything to go by , the jam is arriving tommorrow.

I have updated the research page under A brief description to SEO's products: to include

Laundry Bags
FrogMat
Water Soluble Embroidery Film

They now have more products than I've had hot dinners.

I don't think seo know how many products they have some of them are not even on their web site here's the list.

GREENSEAL
CRADLEWRAP.
FROGPACK.
STARPOL.
SOLUTAPE.
BIODEGRADABLE AIRBAG PACKAGING
FOOD CONTAINERS
BIODEGRADABLE CORK fOR WINE BOTTLES
TRADITIONAL RF BUSINESS
HARD SHELL WATER SOLUBLE CAPSULES
AUTOMATIC DISHWASHER DETERGENT CAPSULES
PETAL PACK
PulsLine
Starpol Wrap
Laundry Bags
FrogMat
Water Soluble Embroidery Film