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Thanks, Alan: suspect we have hit the nail on the head re the commercialisation issue. This process has not been a problem to ASDA as they have had significant exposure with so-called trial packaging hitting their shops. Latterly, the problem has been round the clock working and taking machines out of service for retro-fitting. Nor have we heard much recently about licensing deals so how profitable will the deal negotiated be to SEO? OK, Tesco, Sainsbury et al will be in the wings but their approach doesn't differ one jot. I accept the argument that Martin Wagner is now on board; was the primary reason for his recruitment that it dawned that they had been taken for a ride in the negotiation last Spring. So commercialisation should mean some lolly but hardly on favourable terms. I hope I am not being unduly pessimistic. Even if the deal is not that profitable, we should still get some overhead coverage and a basis for decent profits from softer parts of the market (if they exist in packaging!).

Eric

Another big buy after hours tonight.

Can anyone elaborate as to why non of the Directors, the CEO or the chairman has bought any shares in SEO recently. Only Ian Balchin And P Lovegrove have shares (not that many either) and they have had these for some time. Surely if they had confidence in the company and it's products they would buy in?

Happy holidays Alan.
Lets hope there is news before you return and that the news brings lots of smiling faces -we all seem to be a little 'down' at the moment on this thread.

Thats because the bloody SP is a little down at the moment!

Well!!!!!
We need a Happy, Happy , Happy Face not one a little bit sad.
Know it hurts a bit because the sp is down - but this is normally a happy positive thread and you all usually play at 'silly (or should I say clever) jokes when there is no news to discuss.
However lately you all have me worried - lots of you have vanished and the rest of you - well ???
Anyway - goodluck and hope the sun shines on you all soon.

I am still here!

The Directors are not well paid and do not have disposable income after the penal tax we all live under to invest - also to do so could cause problems with potential customers!

This company is for the future and if their clients are anything like those that I have to deal with then patience is certainly a virtue!

Let's hope it comes good while we are all young enough to enjoy it!

Don't worry Samon, we are all going to be smiling soon. It could be a manic, gone totally bananas, type of grin, or it could be a really happy, got rich, type of grin!!
kim

angusrjy ,

It is also because they are in a closed period. Even prior to that they would be wary of the LSE rules if they dealt in SEO shares if there was the possibility of info re the ongoing trials or negotiations of contracts leaking out, ( insider dealing ).

Pinnacle, greekman...

Yeah, I did wonder if there was the usual red tape and LSE rules that may prevent them from buying or even selling shares at the moment, thanks for the response & fingers crossed for the release of the interims which I notice have just been changed from the 29th to the 30th June??

I think you will find that although they do not own outright many shares !! - they do have quite a lot of share options - which is an effective way of accumulating shares in your company if it is profitable

Angusrjy,

Where did you see the change of date mentioned.

I saw it on my TD Waterhouse account under key dates, it said 29th June last week and now it says 30th June

Thanks for that Angusrjy,

Reading between the lines re the change of date for the interims. If the delay was because of bad news, I would have thought it would be dodgy to say the least to delay such news. Hopefully, the 1 day delay could be down to wanting to release certain details that perhaps are not quite ready, such as contracts etc. Or yes it may be due to a more mundane reason. Not putting on the rose tinted glasses, just my thoughts on record.

Anyone know why the Share Price has changed and is know 8.18p etc instead of the usual fractions of 8.25, 8.5 etc?

PS The Shares will now shoot up because I have sold all mine!!!!! Always happens!!

Simon

Simon, it is to test the Stock Exchange computers, they are getting ready to cope with the MASSIVE increase in share price now you have sold yours :o)
kim

Hope so Greekman, like you say it would be more against stock exchange rules to hold back bad news rather than good I hope.

Hang on Simon, you've just sold all yours and now you choose to post here?? Hmmm

Simon,

It's just a more accurate measure of the mid show price, as previously for example ( as I'm sure you noticed ) if the ask was 10p with the bid 9.5p, the mid would sometimes show the ask price and other times show the bid price. So this more refined system shows a truer mid price. It sometimes shows my portfolio close in a better light, although in true monetary terms it makes not one jot of difference.

Afternoon all

Some idle musings from the umpire's chair.

I have long hoped that the share price would actually reflect what is going on in the market and agree that should be expressed as it is now. Before it was largely artificial and almost at the whims of the MM.

Web site. Yes it is a big improvement on what existed before, but it can still be better. A lot of people on this thread have argued that a web site is not an essential tool for SEOs existence.

SEO are supposedly at the cutting edge of a vast and growing transformation in the packaging industry and are hopefully trying to convince as many people as possible of the huge benefits their products will bring to their public image and their bottoms lines. They cannot see all their prospects and, therefore, a bright and informative and properly functioning web site is their shop window to their future prospects and to educate the world generally.

As to why the web site has been upgraded now is open to conjecture given that the management have said repeatedly that they have better things to do than fiddle with a web site. The fact that they have thought that this is not important in the past, IMO reflects badly on SEOs managements business nous.

It is my suspicion that the major companies in the US that they are talking nay negotiating with may have said that they need to have a better web site. Without it SEO to me appears to be a two bit company with little awareness as to the importance of corporate image and brand development and management. I know some will disagree with me, but in defence of my opinion, look at the major business to business companies who are very strong in this area.

This brings me to another point. Take a close look at Stanelcos corporate logo. If you did not know what the word "S T A N E L C O" said, would you, in a split second glance, be able to decipher what the name says? NO! As examples, look at the logos of First Direct, M&S and Orange. SEO's logo looks as though a plumber has welded a few bits of pipe together and then placed the letters too close together. It looks like a bit of out of date art deco design!

Sorry to go on about this, but how does the corporate logo convey anything to anyone about what the company does? Cant they change it so that it reflects SEOs business of protecting the environment, a mainstream issue all around the world?

I am wearing a bullet proof vest against the firepower of those who strongly disagree with opinions above. Hopefully some will agree well with me on at least one or two points above.

Finally, my thought on why the Interims appear to have been delayed by a day. Surely it is because they are signing a major deal with a major company on Thursday and wish to announce it with the Interims?!?!

The oily one

PS Football A house in the Sahara desert has got more chance of being hit by an iceberg than England have of winning the World Cup if they continue to dish up the rubbish they have up until now. I think that they are scared of success. Lets hope, and I do, that Im wrong. And SGE is as passionate and demonstrative and a garden gnome on mogadom. A touch of the Stuart Pearce wouldn't go amiss. He seems totally incapable of directing the strategy on the field as most managers do as a one year old is of conducting an orchestra in Wagner's Ring.