Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Never let facts get in the way of opinions LOL

Some people are quick to condemn Israel for alleged breaches of international law, but "Palestinians should be free to ignore it."
Why is that then? Because Israel is a nation mainly of Jews?

Galloway-esque and Livingstone-esque
Anti-semitism has many masks, but they always slip.
Now you can plainly see people for what they really are!

ITLB

You make a good point.

Right up to the bit where you wreck it again with your reds under the bed paranoia.

I don't see the San Remo as international law. It was a con set up by a handful of countries. The League of Nations was a waste of space.

If we are talking about International Laws, especially ones that have more legitimacy in terms of countries supporting them, then what about all the United Nations resolutions that Israel has ignored. It would seem that you are somewhat selective about the laws that you want to support!

If you want to compare any country with the Nazis then Israel looks like the best candidate

Here are a few

Resolution 106: condemns Israel for Gaza raid.
Resolution 111: condemns Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people.
Resolution 127: recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in Jerusalem.
Resolution 162: urges Israel to comply with UN decisions.
Resolution 171: determines flagrant violations by Israel in its attack on Syria.
Resolution 228: censures Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control.
Resolution 237: urges Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees.
Resolution 248: condemns Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan.
Resolution 250: calls on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem.
Resolution 251: deeply deplores Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of
Resolution 252: declares invalid Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital.
Resolution 256: condemns Israeli raids on Jordan as flagrant violation.
Resolution 259: deplores Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation.
Resolution 262: condemns Israel for attack on Beirut airport.
Resolution 265: condemns Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan.
Resolution 267: censures Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem.
Resolution 270: condemns Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon.
Resolution 271: condemns Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem.
Resolution 279: demands withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon.
Resolution 280: condemns Israeli's attacks against Lebanon.
Resolution 285: demands immediate Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon.
Resolution 298: deplores Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem.
Resolution 313: demands that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon.
Resolution 316: condemns Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon.
Resolution 317: deplores Israel's refusal to release.
Resolution 332: condemns Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon.
Resolution 337: condemns Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty.
Resolution 347: condemns Israeli attacks on Lebanon.
Resolution 425: calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
Resolution 427: calls on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
Resolution 444: deplores Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces.
Resolution 446: determines that Israeli settlements are a serious obstruction to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
Resolution 450: calls on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.
Resolution 452: calls on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories.
Resolution 465: deplores Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist its settlements program.
Resolution 467: strongly deplores Israel's military intervention in Lebanon.
Resolution 468: calls on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return.
Resolution 469: strongly deplores Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians.
Resolution 471: expresses deep concern at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Resolution 476: reiterates that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are null and void.
Resolution 478: censures (Israel) in the strongest terms for its claim to Jerusalem in its Basic Law.
Resolution 484: declares it imperative that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors.
Resolution 487: strongly condemns Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility.
Resolution 497: decides that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights
is null and void and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith.
Resolution 498: calls on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon.
Resolution 501: calls on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops.
Resolution 509: demands that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon.
Resolution 515: demands that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in.
Resolution 517: censures Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
Resolution 518: demands that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon.
Resolution 520: condemns Israel's attack into West Beirut.
Resolution 573: condemns Israel vigorously for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters.
Resolution 587: takes note of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw.
Resolution 592: strongly deplores the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops.
Resolution 605: strongly deplores Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians.
Resolution 607: calls on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Resolution 608: deeply regrets that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians.
Resolution 636: deeply regrets Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
Resolution 641: deplores Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 672: condemns Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram Al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
Resolution 673: deplores Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations.
Resolution 681: deplores Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 694: deplores Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
Resolution 726: strongly condemns Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 799: strongly condemns Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.


Here are a few more

Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in Israel.

General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948

"Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible."

Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal.

Security Council Resolution 242, Nov. 22, 1967

Calls for the withdrawal of Israeli forces from territories occupied in the war that year and "the acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal.

Security Council Resolution 446, March 22, 1979

"Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East."

Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination.

General Assembly Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974

Affirms "the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine...to self-determination without external interference" and "to national independence and sovereignty."

Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State

Security Council Resolution 1397, March 12, 2002

Affirms "a vision of a region where two states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side within secure and recognized borders."

Gausie: Galloway and Livingstone are hardly under the bed . . . they're on top of it, jumping up and down. :-)

Hays,

Where, or from what, do you get your energy from?

Do you know the difference between law and a UN resolution?
Thought not.

"If you want to compare any country with the Nazis then Israel looks like the best candidate"

Typical Arab anti-semitic propaganda, LOL, you just lap it up don't you?
Trying to provoke are you?
I reckon your big copy and paste junk is a reaction to having revealed your true self by saying Palestinians should ignore international law. Trying to deflect attention from that, huh?
Big bluster = caught out LOL

See below "a violation of international law"

The Security Council,

Recalling its resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming again that the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible,

Deeply concerned over the enactment of a "basic law" in the Israeli Knesset proclaiming a change in the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, with its implications for peace and security,

Noting that Israel has not complied with resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming its determination to examine practical ways and means, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, to secure the full implementation of its resolution 476 (1980), in the event of non-compliance by Israel,


Censures in the strongest terms the enactment by Israel of the "basic law" on Jerusalem and the refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions;

Affirms that the enactment of the "basic law" by Israel constitutes a violation of international law and does not affect the continued application of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since June 1967, including Jerusalem;

Determines that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which have altered or purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, and in particular the recent "basic law" on Jerusalem, are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith;

Affirms also that this action constitutes a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

Decides not to recognize the "basic law" and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem and calls upon:

All Member States to accept this decision;

Those States that have established diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City;

Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the implementation of the present resolution before 15 November 1980;

Decides to remain seized of this serious situation.

Adopted at the 2245th meeting by 14 votes to none, with 1 abstention (United States of America).

"ITLB

You make a good point.

Right up to the bit where you wreck it again with your reds under the bed paranoia. "

It's amazing how a little prodding soon reveals what people are really like..... LOL

Are you saying Galloway and LIvingstone AREN'T Reds?

"Hays,

Where, or from what, do you get your energy from?"

Same place as all fanatics. You should know.

ITL.

I am sure that Hays knows the difference.

Do you know the difference between humane and inhumane actions?

If so, are you specifically blind when viewing the past actions of Israel.

Many, who have written on this thread, have condemned both sides in the conflicts.

The problem is that the present to recognise its own responsibility when negotiating.

How about some original thought from fahel and haymaker?
You know, once you grow up having learnt to copy and paste, it's time to think for yourselves.
At least fred sometimes uses some of his own brain cells, even if they do usually malfunction.
Now don't go thinking I'm being offensive to you "gentlemen", but your unending attacks on Israel are offensive to me so you will get a response from me.
There was a moment in this thread when rational discussion and an open exchange of views was possible, but when you have irrational hatred by three posters, you've got to react in a more vigorous way. It's the only thing they understand.
Reason escapes the hateful.

ITLB

Can I confirm - you're calling me, of all people, anti-semitic????

That's outrageous! Let me assure you - I have some very good friends who are jewish.

lol

ITLB, I've seen Haystack's posts for years and have never seen a single hateful one.

Methinks you do have a tendency to try to shut out logical argument by name-calling.

Kayak,

Hays is often hateful to me.

I showed his postings to my "mum", and she said I am sure that when he grows up he will be nicer".

I always believe my mum, but have doubts about this.

He is a ????????? nice fellow really.

Honest!

Gausie
That's what all anti-semitic people say! Come out of the closet.

Kayak
I must try harder.

Gausie - hardly ! LOL I wasn't referring to you, I was talking about haymaker what with his arrogant supercilious self-righteousness saying Israel should never have existed. How many non anti-semites go around saying that?
How many non anti-semites condemn Israel for allegedly breaking "international law", then go on to say Palestinians should break "international law"?
Now you may know him personally, but his words suggest something else under the surface.

Kayak,
Are you suggesting logical argument is possible when virulent anti-Israel propaganda is posted by these people?
Check out the opening post talking of murder and war crimes.......and you think it's ME who has "a tendency to try to shut out logical argument by name-calling"

fred,
I read your last post and smiled. Maybe you have some saving grace.

ITLB

The opening post is just Fred. He's a tosser with shit for brains for whom being controversial and taking on the world of rational posters gives him an e-hardon.

Recognise that he's seen almost unanimously on here as the insignificant clown that he is.

G

ps to Fred: No offence meant.

All that much.