Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Would be much better if Fred went and helped out on one of the Greek islands instead of sitting at home ranting in a drunken stupor .
Do something useful and feel better about yourself.

The gap between ONS migrant figures and the truth is as wide as the Grand Canyon. We are owed an apology






By Allison Pearson
12 May 2016 • 10:00pm




So, it turns out the British people are owed an apology.

An apology for every parent whose child can’t get a place at a secondary school of their choosing.

An apology for every plasterer who claims that his wages have been driven down remorselessly by Eastern Europeans, yet been told to shut up because migrants are really good for the economy.

An apology for those damned as “racist” when they dare to wonder why families who have lived here and paid their dues for several generations can’t get priority on the housing ladder.

A huge sorry is also owing, it seems, to every heavily pregnant woman turned away by her local maternity unit because it’s “full”. (Half of all UK maternity units have rejected women in labour over the past two years, particularly in migrant hotspots where the birth rate is going through the roof.)

Oh, and while we’re at it, let’s say sorry to that poor woman’s husband who has to drive 35 miles, with his wife groaning like a stricken moose, to find another hospital in which she can give birth. And this in the world’s fifth richest nation.

The apologies are due because of a report – or, as some will call it, a confession – issued by the Office of National Statistics. And what the ONS admitted to was The Gap.

Official figures show that, in the five years to 2015, just under one million immigrants came to this country from the EU, as they are perfectly entitled to do. But hark. Over the same period, the number of National Insurance numbers issued to EU migrants was more than 2.2 million.



Full story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/12/the-gap-between-official-migrant-figures-and-the-truth-is-as-wid/

Allways had this fear .

Frightening!

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Leave now, while you have a chance.

Yes owed an apology (good article) but would we get one from anyone ?the answer is obviously no ,they are still telling us that migration is good for this country and these morons are in power !!

Fred you are perhaps the biggest idiot i have ever come across .

Yes it is frightening isn't it , but you don't realise do you , just more bull from you same old same old . Head in clouds attitude .

Thank you Dumbo.

I value your opinion as much as I valued tankers.

That's nice of you Fred.

Why would we leave this is Britain we were born here ,maybe some others should leave ,like the 2.5 million who came in .

And what about money in your pocket at the end of the week on paying less for shopping?

ANOTHER REASON TO LEAVE: Weekly shop will FALL by £40 under Brexit, finds top economist

Speaking exclusively to Express.co.uk, Professor Patrick Minford revealed how British families would see the cost of a weekly food shop PLUNGE if Britain were to leave the European Union and move to a model of 'free trade' or no trade tariffs.

The Professor of Economics at Cardiff University and former advisor to the Treasury, said: "We go to free trade, that means that prices come down on all the goods we import from around the world, and prices come down on what we import from the EU too because they've got to compete with the rest of the world when they sell to us."

He added: "That's worth a whopping £40 a week on the average worker's budget."

Professor Minford found through mathematical modelling of a Brexit that the 'protectionist' elements of the EU currently mean we pay up to 20 per cent more for manufacturing and agriculture.

Lower prices would have wider benefits for the economy, making it more competitive with industry growing in areas where Britain does well, explained the founder of the Liverpool Research Unit.

Under the world free trade model, Britain would still be able to protect the industries or parts of the economy, which are at a disadvantage compared to other countries - for example, the steel industry or manufacturing.

Crucially, Britain would be able to do this financially shield areas specifically important to the UK economy.

Professor Minford told Express.co.uk: "One of the things about leaving the EU is we become free to give help to any particular industry we want to stop contracting or stop contracting so much, like steel. The US, for example, just put a big duty on steel an anti-dumping duty of 267 per cent and it's a free trading country."

He added: "That's what the British voters will be able to do after leaving the EU, they'll be able to decide for themselves who is deserving of their help."

Currently, the EU is protecting areas under the demands and influence of powerful unions in Germany and France, according to Professor Minford.

Dumbo.

Some more information from an idiot of a foreigner.

They should keep their noses out of our business and politics.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36284200

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36284200



IMF warns of substantial Brexit risk to UK economy


A vote for the UK to leave the European Union could have a "negative and substantial effect" on economic growth, the International Monetary Fund said.
In its regular health check of the UK economy, the IMF said that a Brexit vote would result in a "protracted period of heightened uncertainty".

That would cause volatility on financial markets and economic output to decline.

Brexit could also erode London's status as a global financial centre, it said.

The IMF said it expected growth to fall below 2% for the full year in 2016 before returning to an average of 2.25% over the medium term.

However, the fund said that this "broadly positive" forecast was subject to notable risks, the biggest of which was the EU referendum, but also the low level of household savings, high levels of household debt, a wide current account deficit and concerns that productivity growth will not rise significantly.

Concerns about a possible Brexit may have affected UK markets in recent months, according to the IMF.

It pointed to a 40% decline in the number of commercial real estate transactions in the first three months of the year.

Deciding whether to remain in the EU was a choice for voters to make, the IMF said, adding that "their decisions will reflect both economic and non-economic factors".

That's a good find mentor .

Is that from the favouring staying in BBC Freda .

Thicko Fred wouldn't know he just pastes anything ,he will probably paste something telling you to vote out without knowing ,he's that stupid.

There's nothing stoping you Muppets.. go just go

Pesky flies jimmy they're everywhere .

Dumbo,

Please ignore the sign at the cliff edge stating "be careful of subsidence".

You might have an immigrant digging you out!

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Are you a signed up member of the Donald Trump clan?

..Yes I think he probably is -):

Is this Dumbo or Nigel on June 23rd?