Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

No Fred not yet.. Talking of sheep, how you diddling H/S? -):

Hays,


I am surprised you got a visa to visit.

But the Welsh are very acceptive and majority of the time very friendly.

But he had better be careful of those Welsh girls. They frightened me and a married a foreigner. 8-)

Which college?

I have a daughter doing research at Cardiff and another like my wife and self got first degrees at Cardiff.


Good luck to him and I hope he enjoys his stay.

April Sumatra quakes signal Indian ocean plate break-up

The sequence of huge earthquakes that struck off the coast of Sumatra in April may signal the creation of a new tectonic plate boundary.

Scientists give the assessment in this week's Nature journal.

Fasten your seat-belts http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19740004 Well done Ecotricity.

It hasn't done it yet! :-)

Vulnerable young girls, some as young as 10, were systematically targeted for sexual abuse but then ignored when it was brought to the attention of multiple agencies which believed that they were "making their own choices".

The child sexual exploitation review was ordered in the aftermath of a trial in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, which saw nine Asian men aged between 22 and 69 jailed for grooming young white girls for sex.

The Rochdale Borough Safeguarding Children Board (RBSCB) concluded that “deficiencies" in the way children's social care responded to the victims' needs were caused by "patchy" training of front line staff.

Publication of the review follows newspaper reports alleging that agencies in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, were aware of a similar pattern of extensive and coordinated abuse of white girls by some Asian men for which no one has been prosecuted.

Rochdale Council said it has used the review's findings to implement a catalogue of changes and improvements.
so the very people paid to protect the young turned there backs and just took they salary . this is the UK 2012. about somes up the C/SERVANTS

Agree Tanks, That is absolutely disgraceful.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-19739073

Only a matter of time Skinny.. Providing they don't get a power cut.

Did anyone just listen to Dick Taylor on R4 refuse to answer a very simple question on the Rochdale disgrace?

No - I'm watching BBC1 waiting for post 18454 to happen! :-)

Just broken Stan - 148mph.

Well done!

I am not defending the Rochdale "social services", BUT.

There are a lot of problems underlying their failures.

1) some of the intake for "social services" of the have less than sufficient training
2) some of the intake to the services are often well meaning but with social backgrounds more tolerant to "social deviation" than society's norm.
3) "social services" often have the responsibility to "do something about it", but not the authority or "resources" do what is thought necessary.
4) sometimes the correct response to a "problem" or "minor with problems" is to remove temporarily the individual to a "safe" environment.
5) Get it right and you are an angel, get it wrong you are a pleb.


It is a hell of an area to work in which is often left by the more elite to those who are less than adequate themselves. ( I am not condemning "Social workers", but how many Etonian graduates volunteer to do front line "social work" in this country.

I won't go on, other than I think the penalisation for grooming young girls, or boys for prostitution should be heavier.

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Amending the law brings on its own problems and often does provoke problems of two adolescents one of 15years and 11mths and another of 16years and 1mth, who know their "own minds".

Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.

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Don't know, but advertising in order to flog "fancy goods", using sexual images may be stimulating precocity.

Yes I agree Fred, I used the word disgrace earlier in regards to the senior Police Officer (I should have made that distinction in my post) who made the appalling decision in my view not to prosecute the men involved years ago, same goes for the Rotherham case as well.

How to get to Mars

New comet in late November 2013 might blaze brighter than the full Moon

But don't get your hopes up. It might turn out to be a bit of a dud like Kohoutek (1973).

It's just that these things don't come round too often in one's lifetime.

Herbert Lom, Pink Panther star, dies aged 95

One of Abu Hamza's grounds for appeal is that he does not have a passport.

BBC home affairs correspondent Dominic Casciani said Abu Hamza's lawyers would ask for for a "mandatory order" for the return of his confiscated British passport and costs for the legal action.

In a claim submitted to the High Court on Tuesday, they stated they wanted a judicial review of the home secretary's "decision to recall the claimant's British passport and to refuse to return it".

The BBC already understands that Abu Hamza's second ground for challenging his extradition relates to his mental health.

You beat me to it Haystack - brings a lump to your throat eh!

I used to live very near where Abu Hamza was preaching. He was thrown out of the mosque and used to hold court in the middle of a road in Finsbury Park. We passed him when I drove my kids to school on many mornings, especially Fridays . They used to ask, "who is that funny man?" with no hands.

He does have his uses though

Possible he would be the Justice minister in T.I.M.'s world of 2030.
Bloody frightening.
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