goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
TANKER
- 27 Sep 2012 08:16
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Vulnerable young girls, some as young as 10, were systematically targeted for sexual abuse but then ignored when it was brought to the attention of multiple agencies which believed that they were "making their own choices".
The child sexual exploitation review was ordered in the aftermath of a trial in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, which saw nine Asian men aged between 22 and 69 jailed for grooming young white girls for sex.
The Rochdale Borough Safeguarding Children Board (RBSCB) concluded that “deficiencies" in the way children's social care responded to the victims' needs were caused by "patchy" training of front line staff.
Publication of the review follows newspaper reports alleging that agencies in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, were aware of a similar pattern of extensive and coordinated abuse of white girls by some Asian men for which no one has been prosecuted.
Rochdale Council said it has used the review's findings to implement a catalogue of changes and improvements.
so the very people paid to protect the young turned there backs and just took they salary . this is the UK 2012. about somes up the C/SERVANTS
Stan
- 27 Sep 2012 08:41
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Agree Tanks, That is absolutely disgraceful.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-19739073
Only a matter of time Skinny.. Providing they don't get a power cut.
Stan
- 27 Sep 2012 08:48
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Did anyone just listen to Dick Taylor on R4 refuse to answer a very simple question on the Rochdale disgrace?
skinny
- 27 Sep 2012 08:49
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No - I'm watching BBC1 waiting for post 18454 to happen! :-)
skinny
- 27 Sep 2012 09:48
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Just broken Stan - 148mph.
Stan
- 27 Sep 2012 09:48
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Well done!
Fred1new
- 27 Sep 2012 11:50
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I am not defending the Rochdale "social services", BUT.
There are a lot of problems underlying their failures.
1) some of the intake for "social services" of the have less than sufficient training
2) some of the intake to the services are often well meaning but with social backgrounds more tolerant to "social deviation" than society's norm.
3) "social services" often have the responsibility to "do something about it", but not the authority or "resources" do what is thought necessary.
4) sometimes the correct response to a "problem" or "minor with problems" is to remove temporarily the individual to a "safe" environment.
5) Get it right and you are an angel, get it wrong you are a pleb.
It is a hell of an area to work in which is often left by the more elite to those who are less than adequate themselves. ( I am not condemning "Social workers", but how many Etonian graduates volunteer to do front line "social work" in this country.
I won't go on, other than I think the penalisation for grooming young girls, or boys for prostitution should be heavier.
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Amending the law brings on its own problems and often does provoke problems of two adolescents one of 15years and 11mths and another of 16years and 1mth, who know their "own minds".
Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.
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Don't know, but advertising in order to flog "fancy goods", using sexual images may be stimulating precocity.
Stan
- 27 Sep 2012 11:59
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Yes I agree Fred, I used the word disgrace earlier in regards to the senior Police Officer (I should have made that distinction in my post) who made the appalling decision in my view not to prosecute the men involved years ago, same goes for the Rotherham case as well.
skinny
- 27 Sep 2012 12:48
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ExecLine
- 27 Sep 2012 13:00
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New comet in late November 2013 might blaze brighter than the full Moon
But don't get your hopes up. It might turn out to be a bit of a dud like Kohoutek (1973).
It's just that these things don't come round too often in one's lifetime.
skinny
- 27 Sep 2012 13:02
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Haystack
- 27 Sep 2012 13:14
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One of Abu Hamza's grounds for appeal is that he does not have a passport.
BBC home affairs correspondent Dominic Casciani said Abu Hamza's lawyers would ask for for a "mandatory order" for the return of his confiscated British passport and costs for the legal action.
In a claim submitted to the High Court on Tuesday, they stated they wanted a judicial review of the home secretary's "decision to recall the claimant's British passport and to refuse to return it".
The BBC already understands that Abu Hamza's second ground for challenging his extradition relates to his mental health.
skinny
- 27 Sep 2012 13:18
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You beat me to it Haystack - brings a lump to your throat eh!
Haystack
- 27 Sep 2012 13:26
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I used to live very near where Abu Hamza was preaching. He was thrown out of the mosque and used to hold court in the middle of a road in Finsbury Park. We passed him when I drove my kids to school on many mornings, especially Fridays . They used to ask, "who is that funny man?" with no hands.
He does have his uses though
2517GEORGE
- 27 Sep 2012 13:37
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Possible he would be the Justice minister in T.I.M.'s world of 2030.
Bloody frightening.
2517
TANKER
- 27 Sep 2012 13:47
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lets get the facts correct the RACE card is the problem even the good police officers are now to scared to speak out ,
then we go to benefit fiddles the same is there to scared to speak out .
the uk government have got to get rid of the race card or the uk is finished no law and the crooks win. .the uk is a cesspit of corruption and crime .
but when the police take NO action allowing young girls to be raped then .
we are not even fit to be called civalised country.
hang all these child raper in one go and then bring back public floggings .
singapore is the only country with good laws
2517GEORGE
- 27 Sep 2012 13:52
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There is a lot of truth in what you say T.
2517
Stan
- 27 Sep 2012 13:55
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"good police officers are now to scared to speak out" More like "their excuse" and not a truthful reason, just plain laziness more like it.
Fred1new
- 27 Sep 2012 14:11
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They are not "good police officers"!
Their first responsibility should be to the "law", not their colleagues.
Difficult, sometimes.
Fred1new
- 27 Sep 2012 14:17
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Good to see the GDP only shrank by 0.4%
Well done George. Hope Cameron gets through immigration.