hilary
- 31 Dec 2003 13:00
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Hotei
- 09 Sep 2004 09:49
- 1912 of 11056
thanks hilary - 10 points a minute - I like that rate (when I'm on the right side of it !)
Sue 42
- 16 Sep 2004 13:06
- 1913 of 11056
??? Has everyone given up on Forex - cable?
I have managed to recoup my small loss & am now flat but can't decide next move - any ideas????
hilary
- 16 Sep 2004 13:38
- 1914 of 11056
You should be long greenback atm imo, Sue. I am.
Sue 42
- 16 Sep 2004 17:18
- 1916 of 11056
long - so you mean buy?
hodgins
- 16 Sep 2004 18:12
- 1917 of 11056
As it is usually quoted /$ you would actually be short but yes you are long the dollar. Euro/$ quoted that way also.
$/Swiss and $/Yen most commonly quoted the other way around so on these instruments your trade would be long.
So effectively you are long or short the first quoted.
Well long would (no position here) have been successful today coming off a couple of hourly support levels which is the timescale that those who really move the market use.
No position here yet but getting back on short looking at 20 day hourly, horizontal support levels ( very much looked at in FX)and from the contrarian trade angle starting to look attractive.
Downward channel continuation supported by probable fundamentals. Much more upside-breakout?-probably unlikely?
hodgins
- 16 Sep 2004 20:19
- 1918 of 11056
Still not short but 1.7950 looking a good area to go short
Not really sure our interest rates are suddenly likely to go up at a faster rate than US!
hodgins
- 16 Sep 2004 21:16
- 1919 of 11056
If it's going up in Asia it should be going up already so went short and try to add tomorrow
Sue 42
- 17 Sep 2004 08:09
- 1920 of 11056
I'm not sure that's what hilary meant - she usually means buy /$ so go long ie expect the /$ to rise above the 1.79 its at (at least that's what I think she meant) so $ would be weakening
hodgins
- 17 Sep 2004 08:59
- 1921 of 11056
post 1913, I believe, suggested long the greenback. However, the actual trade is /$ so you are long or short the pound (but obviously relatively the opposite way on the dollar). So you would short the pound to be effectively long the greenback.
hilary
- 17 Sep 2004 09:21
- 1922 of 11056
hodgins has got it right, albeit that things have changed since I posted. I'm short Dec Cable and have been for some time and probably will be for a bit longer. When I posted yesterday, I was short Cable, short /$ and long $/CHF on daytrades. They were closed an hour or two after I posted and this morning I'm short greenback.
Sue 42
- 17 Sep 2004 13:40
- 1923 of 11056
Oh dear - I am utterly confused!
If I have (CMC S/B) a cable of 1.790 say, would you buy or sell to go long? and similarly to short?
hilary
- 17 Sep 2004 15:30
- 1924 of 11056
Sue,
Short greenback (USD) = Long Cable or EUR/USD (ie BUY) or short USD/CHF (ie SELL)
Long greenback = Short Cable or EUR/USD or long USD/CHF
hodgins
- 17 Sep 2004 15:42
- 1925 of 11056
Forex trades are always one currency relative to another while share trades just go up or down.
Convention has it that cable (historical term from days of cable under the sea between here and North America) is quoted as /$ (in that order!)Similarly for
Euro/$ but $/Swiss and $/Yen are traditionally the other way around.
So if you had 1.7899-1.7901 or whatever spread is on /$ (Cable) you would buy/go long cable at 1.7901 or sell/go short at 1.7899
You have to go long or short the pound but are effectively doing the opposite for the dollar.
So if you wanted to go long the dollar/greenback against those four other currencies you would need to sell/short the pound and the euro against the dollar but buy the dollar against the Yen or Swissie.
It is possible to find the trades in reverse order on some platforms and you may get more leverage or less risk but that is too confusing
hodgins
- 17 Sep 2004 16:27
- 1926 of 11056
closed short for most of the way between 1.7950 and just above 1.7900 (sb so approximate). Time for run on after school activities.
hilary
- 21 Sep 2004 07:20
- 1928 of 11056
You might be right MM. I've still got my longer term Cable short open, but my indicators are a bit mixed this morning across the European majors, so I'm going to handsit with the daytrades till I'm a bit more confident. Leaning towards Dollar bearishness atm ...... we'll see.
Sue 42
- 21 Sep 2004 09:51
- 1929 of 11056
Hilary - thanks - yes that is what I thought - long cable = BUY (GBP/USD) which is that the dollar wil weaken and vice versa - I thought I was going mad - but I am not!
Maggot
- 21 Sep 2004 19:23
- 1930 of 11056
I hardly believe this - just got a s/b requote on Cable by cmc!! Against me, of course - though it went back five seconds later and I got out. Taking the p**s I thought, though.