Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

That is another opinion!

Went to another meeting about the EU pro's and con's tonight and found it very interesting, it's a really big subject but both sides were examined on economic grounds only.

Needless to say the meeting would have been of no interest to most on here.

Yes but you were drunk Stan .

The public will take very little notice of any logical arguments as most of them are too stupid. They will be swayed by emotional factors.

You sound like that Thornbury woman Hays. Condescending and wrong. Stupidity is linking Brexiteers with supporting Isil as our Dave did. Never confuse lack of education with lack of intelligence. Our Dave was given the best schooling possible, in the minds of his parents, but still talks like a prat. Unfortunately you can't learn intelligence, humility or common sense at school. You either have it or you don't.

I don't think the majority of the public are too stupid at all Hays ,i agree with iturama ,look at Cameron he has run his campaign like an idiot .

PM stitch up with big business
A leaked letter published today in the Mail confirms the Prime Minister was never serious about renegotiating Britain’s membership of the EU. In the letter addressed to David Cameron - dated before the PM returned from Brussels with his ‘deal’ - the chief executive of a large multinational business discussed how to mobilise corporates ’to look carefully at the risks of Brexit’.
This is a shocking revelation and demonstrates how recent announcements by large corporations have been orchestrated to do down Britain. It also further highlights just how far the Prime Minister will go to garner support for his campaign to stay in the European Union.
Big business want to stay in the EU because they can fix the rules in their favour. While we watch the pay of FTSE chiefs sky rocket, uncontrolled immigration has suppressed wages for British workers. The only way to take back control of our borders and protect workers and small businesses is to Vote Leave on 23 June.

Former MI6 chief warns against visa-free Turkish immigration

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/former-mi6-chief-richard-dearlove-warns-against-visa-free-turkish-immigration

Is it right that Dave is saying that ISIS would be happy if we voted out of EU , if so he should be locked up with a straightjacket . How anyone can defend this man is beyond me . What next lets make some disasters up for him .

If anything I would have thought the opposite were true, stronger borders would not suit isis.
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Unbelievable ,isis would like us to vote out !!!! your right VIC he should be certified .

He's going for the scatter gun approach , you can fool most of the people most of the time , but you can't fool people with a brain .

Quite so George , but the EU lives in a well , lets say Disney World .

David Cameron warns Isil will be 'happy' with Brexit as Boris Johnson says PM's deal is 'biggest stitch up since the Bayeux Tapestry'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/17/eu-referendum-boris-johnson-loch-ness-monster-brexit/

What a pair of tory tankers.

Is that all.


UK | Wed May 18, 2016 12:28pm BST Related: UK
Campaign to keep Britain in the EU takes 18-percentage point lead - Ipsos MORI poll


uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-ipsosmori-idUKKCN0Y91A6?feedType=nl&feedName=uktopnewsearly&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UK%20Lunch%20Break%202016-05-18&utm_term=UK%20Lunch%20Break

Typical Fred 18 per cent lead , now i have told you thicko that the polls mean nothing even the one's in our favour .

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Just over five weeks before a referendum on whether Britain should stay in the European Union, the message from opinion polls is simple: It is impossible to predict how Britons will vote on June 23.

Opinion pollsters that failed to forecast both Prime Minister David Cameron's unexpectedly decisive election victory and the result of Israel's election last year have so far painted contradictory pictures of British public opinion.

Traders woke up on Tuesday to an ORB telephone poll showing a 15 percentage point lead for the "In" campaign, a reading that sent sterling up to a 2-1/2 year high against the euro.

But within hours a second poll, conducted online by TNS, showed the "Out" campaign with a three-point lead.
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Read in full .

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poll-idUKKCN0Y72CI

Yes, Dumbo.

All knowing and defining.

Place your bet, with your certainty you are on to a winner!

LOL.

My point is this is something very different and i don't think the polls will tell you much
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Latest EU referendum polls give completely different results

MAY 17TH, 2016 - 12:55 AM ANDREW LEARMONTH 17 COMMENTS
POLLSTERS ICM seem to be hedging their bets on the outcome of the EU referendum with two new polls giving completely different results.

The polls, carried out for the Guardian, showed those who were spoken to by ICM on the phone would vote to remain in by 47 per cent to 39 per cent. However, those who took part in the internet poll said they would vote to leave 47 per cent to 43 per cent.

All those taking part were asked the same questions over the same period of time. And the method of analysing the date is similar. Puzzled pollster Martin Boon from ICM admits he doesn’t know why that difference exists.

“If you want to ask me, which is unlikely, the answer you’d get is ‘I just don’t know’. I can see reasons why phone polls overstate Remain shares, and reasons why online polls overstate Leave shares.”

People might then expect the reality to be somewhere in the middle, but that, says Boon, is not borne out by the evidence. “Polling has often depended on hidden error cancelling itself out, but it seems increasingly unlikely that pollsters can depend on that on this occasion.” In ICM’s phone poll when the 14 per cent of undecideds are removed remain looks set for a clear 10-point lead, by 55 per cent to 45 per cent.

When the don’t knows are removed from the online survey, however, the result is 52 per cent to 48 per cent in favour of Brexit.

ICM Unlimited interviewed 1,002 people by phone, and 2,048 people online on 13-15th May 2016.

Professor John Curtice said the new data from the ICM poll left his poll of polls unchanged, with both Remain and Leave on 50 per cent each.

Dave is doing a good job for Brexit ..



Brexit polls: Boris Johnson more trusted than PM

16 May

Twice as many voters trust former London mayor Boris Johnson rather than David Cameron to tell the truth about Europe, according to a new poll for The Independent.

In the ComRes survey, 45 per cent of voters said Johnson was "more likely to tell the truth about the EU" than Cameron, while 21 per cent said the opposite.

"The shock finding will dismay the Prime Minister after a week in which he warned of possible 'conflict' in Europe as a result of Brexit, and the Bank of England and IMF warned of the danger of recession," says The Independent.