Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Is that all.


UK | Wed May 18, 2016 12:28pm BST Related: UK
Campaign to keep Britain in the EU takes 18-percentage point lead - Ipsos MORI poll


uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-ipsosmori-idUKKCN0Y91A6?feedType=nl&feedName=uktopnewsearly&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UK%20Lunch%20Break%202016-05-18&utm_term=UK%20Lunch%20Break

Typical Fred 18 per cent lead , now i have told you thicko that the polls mean nothing even the one's in our favour .

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Just over five weeks before a referendum on whether Britain should stay in the European Union, the message from opinion polls is simple: It is impossible to predict how Britons will vote on June 23.

Opinion pollsters that failed to forecast both Prime Minister David Cameron's unexpectedly decisive election victory and the result of Israel's election last year have so far painted contradictory pictures of British public opinion.

Traders woke up on Tuesday to an ORB telephone poll showing a 15 percentage point lead for the "In" campaign, a reading that sent sterling up to a 2-1/2 year high against the euro.

But within hours a second poll, conducted online by TNS, showed the "Out" campaign with a three-point lead.
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Read in full .

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poll-idUKKCN0Y72CI

Yes, Dumbo.

All knowing and defining.

Place your bet, with your certainty you are on to a winner!

LOL.

My point is this is something very different and i don't think the polls will tell you much
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Latest EU referendum polls give completely different results

MAY 17TH, 2016 - 12:55 AM ANDREW LEARMONTH 17 COMMENTS
POLLSTERS ICM seem to be hedging their bets on the outcome of the EU referendum with two new polls giving completely different results.

The polls, carried out for the Guardian, showed those who were spoken to by ICM on the phone would vote to remain in by 47 per cent to 39 per cent. However, those who took part in the internet poll said they would vote to leave 47 per cent to 43 per cent.

All those taking part were asked the same questions over the same period of time. And the method of analysing the date is similar. Puzzled pollster Martin Boon from ICM admits he doesn’t know why that difference exists.

“If you want to ask me, which is unlikely, the answer you’d get is ‘I just don’t know’. I can see reasons why phone polls overstate Remain shares, and reasons why online polls overstate Leave shares.”

People might then expect the reality to be somewhere in the middle, but that, says Boon, is not borne out by the evidence. “Polling has often depended on hidden error cancelling itself out, but it seems increasingly unlikely that pollsters can depend on that on this occasion.” In ICM’s phone poll when the 14 per cent of undecideds are removed remain looks set for a clear 10-point lead, by 55 per cent to 45 per cent.

When the don’t knows are removed from the online survey, however, the result is 52 per cent to 48 per cent in favour of Brexit.

ICM Unlimited interviewed 1,002 people by phone, and 2,048 people online on 13-15th May 2016.

Professor John Curtice said the new data from the ICM poll left his poll of polls unchanged, with both Remain and Leave on 50 per cent each.

Dave is doing a good job for Brexit ..



Brexit polls: Boris Johnson more trusted than PM

16 May

Twice as many voters trust former London mayor Boris Johnson rather than David Cameron to tell the truth about Europe, according to a new poll for The Independent.

In the ComRes survey, 45 per cent of voters said Johnson was "more likely to tell the truth about the EU" than Cameron, while 21 per cent said the opposite.

"The shock finding will dismay the Prime Minister after a week in which he warned of possible 'conflict' in Europe as a result of Brexit, and the Bank of England and IMF warned of the danger of recession," says The Independent.

Place your bet.

Brexit the movie is apparently going viral on social media , this is not something i use so have relied on people who do to keep me up to date .

I know what you mean, Jim, this is very unsocial media.. :-)

More abuse from the out Muppets.. no surprise there then.

Boris rallies the crowds out on the Battle Bus Tour
Boris Johnson was in fighting form out on the campaign trail in the Midlands yesterday. He got to grips with the real issues facing people and talked to local businesses about the specific challenges they face creating jobs and opportunities for people in the face of burdensome Brussels red tape. He then stopped off in Stafford market square to address hundreds of supporters about why City fat cats support staying in the EU, as they see their pay packets rise and rise whilst uncontrolled migration leads to wage depression for lower paid workers.
Back in London, the Prime Minister seemed more at home talking to suited and booted guests of the World Economic Forum. He continued his campaign of doing Britain down, painting another negative picture of life outside the EU, this time with dire warnings on trade deals.
This reveals the stark difference between the two campaigns. They are happy to talk to their friends in the City and big business, who can fix the rules to make the EU work in their favour. However, we will be out on the road talking to people about why we should take back control and spend the £350 million we send to the EU every week on our priorities. Every day we are gaining more and more support across the country. Together, we can win this.

Number of EU nationals working in UK skyrockets
ONS figures released this morning reveal that three quarters of the rise in employment over the past year has come from people born abroad. Indeed, the number of EU nationals working in the UK has increased by 224,001 in the last year alone, the equivalent of a city the size of Portsmouth.
The truth is that it is Brits on low pay - and those out of work - who feel the consequences of uncontrolled migration. They are forced to compete with millions of people from abroad for jobs, and they suffer downward pressure on their wages.
After we Vote Leave, we can create an immigration policy which is based on skills rather than the country where someone was born. And as the leader of the IN campaign admitted, wages will rise once we take back control of our borders. The only way to do this is to Vote Leave on 23 June.

The lights will stay on if we Vote Leave
Andrea Leadsom gave a speech yesterday in which she discussed the risks to the UK’s energy security if we stay in the EU. The Energy Minister highlighted new EU plans that would seriously endanger our energy supply, including a requirement for member states to take on legal responsibility for each other’s gas security. This could lead to stronger members within the EU being forced to prop up the supplies of the weaker ones. Ms Leadsom also pointed out that European Commission proposals will require the UK to ask eurocrats for approval before negotiating new energy deals with non-EU countries.
However, the Energy Minister pointed to benefits to consumers and businesses if we Vote Leave. We can take back control of our tax system and reduce energy bills, and not be subject to EU State Aid rules which have restricted our ability to support struggling industries such as steel. She concluded that leaving the EU will ‘give us freedom to keep bills down, to meet our climate change targets in the cheapest way possible, and of course, keep the lights on.’

Majority of polls still showing IN more likely.

Who are these pollsters asking?

Does anyone know of anyoneone who has been asked their opinion??

Haystack:

Isnt it about time you came off the fence? We all know you would vote for Christmas if the chief turkey told you to.

Hard luck boys.

Remain 53% out 47%


http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls/

Thats why the remains are shitting themselves Fred.

I am voting OUT.

as posted several times, i shall be doing my bit to get that result as close as possible

the closer the result, the more there are likely to be strong aftershocks across many other member states, and a damn good job that will be too

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from this morning's FT

EU nationals working in UK hit record
Sharp climb to 6.8% of workforce fuels immigration debate before June 23 vote

Just a thought are these people getting in now to Britain before vote , thinking that if there is an out vote they will be ok to stay . In other words is the fact that there is a vote making people decide to come here in case we vote out .

That's what you call desperate ...

David Cameron warns Isil will be 'happy' with Brexit as Boris Johnson says PM's deal is 'biggest stitch up since the Bayeux Tapestry'

Balls and Cable? Osborne really is scraping the barrel: The electorate kicked them out in 2015, so why does the Chancellor think voters will take any notice of what they say about the EU, asks RICHARD LITTLEJOHN

It can’t have escaped his attention that both Labour’s Balls and the Lib Dems’ Cable lost their seats at the last election. If voters weren’t prepared to return either of them to Parliament, why does he think people will take any notice of what they have to say about the EU? Not so long ago, Osborne was warning anyone who would listen that a Labour government with Balls in the Treasury would be a sure-fire recipe for economic disaster. Balls came to prominence as Gordon Brown’s bag man and is credited with writing that hilarious speech about ‘post neo-classical endogenous growth theory’, which he copied from an episode of Bill And Ben, The Flowerpot Men.

Migrant workers blow to Cameron: Calls for Brexit boosted as explosive official figures show record 2.2m from the EU working in Britain and 4 in 5 new jobs going to foreigners

Record numbers of EU migrants are working in Britain, new figures reveal
Total exploiting free movement rules hit 2.2m - half are Eastern European
Foreign-born workers now hold one in six jobs in the UK, statistics show
Figures are blow to Mr Cameron who has pledged to reduce net migration

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3597836/Migrant-workers-blow-Cameron-Record-2-2m-EU-working-Britain-explosive-official-figures-bolster-calls-Brexit-vote.html