Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Free movement of people ,the EU know that huge amounts are coming to the UK and we are struggling to cope but they don't care.
Merkel inviting Syrians to come to Europe has been a disaster (she now knows this) but what have they done?
There is an uprising right across Europe and it will get worse .Breaking up the EU is the only way for Europe to survive .
I believe we will vote out ,not because i want to because i really believe the Brits have had enough ,the polls won't reflect this right now.

You are beginning to sound like Enoch Powell.

Does anyone know of any British Plumbers, Electricians, Refuse collectors,
Secretaries, Receptionist, Joiners, Bus drivers, Labourer's...etc..etc..etc
Going to work in those low wage countries like Hungary..Poland...Greece...ETC..ETC..????

No neither do I...

Just because I am voting OUT, it doesn't mean I think we will win. In fact I think the vote will be to stay IN.

The public are easily scared. The two camps are relying on fear. The OUT group are using fear of immigration and the IN group are using fear of damage to the economy. Each does have plus points, but the public are ignoring them as they are too vague and unproven. It will come down to which camp can frighten the voters the most. At the moment, my money is on the remain camp being better at generating fear.

It is no use moaning about Cameron's campaign. Both camps genuinely believe in their propositions. Neither side has any ulterior motives for staying or leaving. They are both trying as hard as they can to win. Both sides will use dirty tricks, that is just the nature of the battle.

hat/tip to mro across the road.


http://tapnewswire.com/2016/05/eu-propaganda-being-sent-out-with-polling-cards/


level playing field ...

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/16/angelina-jolie-borders-open-migrants/

A senior US diplomat has said the world's nations are "praying" for a Remain vote in Britain's EU referendum.

Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the United Nations, used an interview to give a stark warning about the "ramifications" for the rest of the world of a Brexit vote - saying the ties that bind Britain to Europe cannot be "snipped in some tidy way".

Ms Power, a former adviser to Barack Obama, said of Britain's decision: "All I can say is that the membership of the UN will be gathering in prayer and support for the Yes vote in advance of that vote next month.

"People have really invested in the linkages among European countries. The idea that those can be snipped in some tidy way without ramifications for the people of the United Kingdom or across Europe and the world is not realistic.

A gathering of the impious, to importune God for the impossible:



"All I can say is that the membership of the UN will be gathering in prayer and support for the Yes vote in advance of that vote next month."

Run for those hills I tell ya.. it's the only way out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599970/Migrants-spark-housing-crisis-EU-tells-Britain-build-homes-open-borders-send-population-soaring.html

Migrants spark housing crisis:

Now EU tells Britain to build more homes as open borders send population soaring

European Commission report warned Britain heading for an 'acute' crisis
EU report, uncovered by Chris Grayling MP, said UK needs 220,000 a year
But it orders Britain to 'boost supply', instead of acknowledging migration
Grayling said building so many would change UK's 'nature and character'

Britain has been ordered by Brussels to build more houses – to cope with all the EU immigrants.

The European Commission warned the UK is heading for an ‘acute’ housing crisis caused by massive population growth.

It admitted that first-time buyers were being hit particularly hard and the situation could worsen, with official projections saying the UK needs at least 220,000 new houses a year. But, rather than acknowledging the clamour in the UK for stricter border controls to ease demand, the Commission ordered Britain to ‘take further steps to boost housing supply’.

The demand for more building is contained in a report into Britain’s housing market which was quietly slipped out on Wednesday.

So that's their answer just take up huge swaths of land just to satisfy the incompetent EU . I don't see that as the outers scaremongering Haystack just actual fact .

Do you see the word ORDERED there Freda , not advised or consulted with . Does that not tell you something .

This is why we must go .

Interesting and relevant Fred, as we tend to take for granted some of the things gained from being a member of a club, much easier to constantly find fault with a club membership for some. Weighing up the pro's and con's takes a fair time after "listening" to people with info on how the EU works overall. Not easy as there is a lot to consider.

Attending meetings on the subject can be very informative, assuming the speakers are as non party political as seen, been to two now and more coming up when spotted I hope.

British expats have lost their legal challenge for the right to vote in the European Union referendum.

The appeal had been brought by 94-year-old World War Two veteran Harry Shindler, who lives in Italy, and lawyer and resident of Belgium Jacquelyn MacLennan.

They were seeking to overturn a ruling by the High Court in London, which upheld the Government’s decision to bar British citizens from voting in the upcoming referendum when they have been resident overseas for more than 15 years.

http://news.sky.com/story/1699062/celebrities-come-out-in-force-for-remain-vote

Hundreds of celebrities have become the latest group to put their names to a letter urging voters to back remaining in the EU.

Film directors, actors, comedians and artists - and even the Poet Laureate - are named in a letter to The Guardian backing the Remain campaign.

The movie directors named include Danny Boyle, Mike Leigh and Richard Curtis, along with writers including spy author John le Carre.

Film actors include Benedict Cumberbatch, Bill Nighy, Dame Kristin Scott Thomas, Helena Bonham Carter, Jude Law, Juliet Stevenson and Keira Knightley.

Three knights of the screen - Sir Derek Jacobi, Sir John Hurt and Sir Patrick Stewart - are named, along with comedians Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand and Steve Coogan, and the Poet Laureate, Carol Ann Duffy.

Interesting and relevant Fred, as we tend to take for granted some of the things gained from being a member of a club, much easier to constantly find fault with a club membership for some. Weighing up the pro's and con's takes a fair time after "listening" to people with info on how the EU works overall. Not easy as there is a lot to consider.

Attending meetings on the subject can be very informative, assuming the speakers are as non party political as seen, been to two now and more coming up when spotted I hope.

Paying much attention to what "so called" celebs have to say is also not to be recommended on this subject IMHO.

Those actors wouldnt be connected in some way to the Brussels Broadcasting Corp, would they?

Knew it .

I think there is almost no chance of the vote being for OUT. Every economic think tank such as the IMF, governments, political commentators, celebrities are in favour of staying in.

The IN campaign is better organised, better funded and has more international support. The OUT campaign is a bit of a rag bag. It has no international support, no economic body support and is vague about the future. It is why the odds are 2/7 or IN and 7/2 for OUT.