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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 20 May 2016 08:42 - 2001 of 12628

This is why we must go .

Stan - 20 May 2016 10:20 - 2002 of 12628

Interesting and relevant Fred, as we tend to take for granted some of the things gained from being a member of a club, much easier to constantly find fault with a club membership for some. Weighing up the pro's and con's takes a fair time after "listening" to people with info on how the EU works overall. Not easy as there is a lot to consider.

Attending meetings on the subject can be very informative, assuming the speakers are as non party political as seen, been to two now and more coming up when spotted I hope.

Haystack - 20 May 2016 10:30 - 2003 of 12628

British expats have lost their legal challenge for the right to vote in the European Union referendum.

The appeal had been brought by 94-year-old World War Two veteran Harry Shindler, who lives in Italy, and lawyer and resident of Belgium Jacquelyn MacLennan.

They were seeking to overturn a ruling by the High Court in London, which upheld the Government’s decision to bar British citizens from voting in the upcoming referendum when they have been resident overseas for more than 15 years.

Haystack - 20 May 2016 10:33 - 2004 of 12628

http://news.sky.com/story/1699062/celebrities-come-out-in-force-for-remain-vote

Hundreds of celebrities have become the latest group to put their names to a letter urging voters to back remaining in the EU.

Film directors, actors, comedians and artists - and even the Poet Laureate - are named in a letter to The Guardian backing the Remain campaign.

The movie directors named include Danny Boyle, Mike Leigh and Richard Curtis, along with writers including spy author John le Carre.

Film actors include Benedict Cumberbatch, Bill Nighy, Dame Kristin Scott Thomas, Helena Bonham Carter, Jude Law, Juliet Stevenson and Keira Knightley.

Three knights of the screen - Sir Derek Jacobi, Sir John Hurt and Sir Patrick Stewart - are named, along with comedians Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand and Steve Coogan, and the Poet Laureate, Carol Ann Duffy.

Stan - 20 May 2016 10:37 - 2005 of 12628

Interesting and relevant Fred, as we tend to take for granted some of the things gained from being a member of a club, much easier to constantly find fault with a club membership for some. Weighing up the pro's and con's takes a fair time after "listening" to people with info on how the EU works overall. Not easy as there is a lot to consider.

Attending meetings on the subject can be very informative, assuming the speakers are as non party political as seen, been to two now and more coming up when spotted I hope.

Paying much attention to what "so called" celebs have to say is also not to be recommended on this subject IMHO.

MaxK - 20 May 2016 10:38 - 2006 of 12628

Those actors wouldnt be connected in some way to the Brussels Broadcasting Corp, would they?

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 10:41 - 2007 of 12628

Knew it .

Haystack - 20 May 2016 10:50 - 2008 of 12628

I think there is almost no chance of the vote being for OUT. Every economic think tank such as the IMF, governments, political commentators, celebrities are in favour of staying in.

The IN campaign is better organised, better funded and has more international support. The OUT campaign is a bit of a rag bag. It has no international support, no economic body support and is vague about the future. It is why the odds are 2/7 or IN and 7/2 for OUT.

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 10:57 - 2009 of 12628

People have no chance of anything in your world , you live by numbers , so we let ourselves be herded around unable to question anything . What a wimp you are .

2517GEORGE - 20 May 2016 10:58 - 2010 of 12628

A good many of those luvvies (post 2004) also responsible for trying to suppress Freedom Of Speech.
2517

Haystack - 20 May 2016 11:06 - 2011 of 12628

I will still vote OUT, but I am becoming resigned to saying in. I always thought the in vote would win and as the campaign continues it is looking even more likely. The turnout is what will decide it. The OUT campaign needs a low turnout.

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 11:07 - 2012 of 12628

Aren't most of these luvvies Labour supporters , I think they are .

iturama - 20 May 2016 11:11 - 2013 of 12628

I received my poll card today, together with a crib sheet telling me what the experts say. ha ha. You can guess the tone. Heard it all before.
Reading the small print it is promoted by Will Straw, one of another would be dynasty, like the Kinnock mob, intent on living and retiring very well off the public purse. (A little work lobbying mates in the commons would go down very nice as well, of course. Musn't look a gift horse in the mouth eh?).

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 11:14 - 2014 of 12628

You can just see the Leicester Manager saying to the team , well we've no chance of winning the league we may as well roll over lads . Yeh .

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 11:22 - 2015 of 12628

Anyway as the remainers are sponsered by US with 9 million and more of our money used what do you expect .

iturama - 20 May 2016 11:23 - 2016 of 12628

Remainiacs

Fred1new - 20 May 2016 12:10 - 2017 of 12628

Vicky,

P2012


Tell me, are you still supporting a party of con artists led a gangster mobster Cameron and various mouthpieces?

mentor - 20 May 2016 12:14 - 2018 of 12628

Take it with a pinch of salt all this polls, so here another one for OUT ........

Poll gives "Out" a 3-point lead ahead of UK's EU referendum

LONDON, May 20 (Reuters) - The "Out" camp has a lead of three percentage points over supporters of staying in the European Union ahead of Britain's June 23 referendum, according to an online opinion poll from TNS published on May 17.

The poll of 1,222 people, conducted on May 10-12, found "Leave" on 41 percent, "Remain" on 38 percent with 21 percent of respondents undecided

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 12:18 - 2019 of 12628

Dear Freda my point about the luvvies is that they all supported LABOUR at the last election , and you know what happened there , eh what about that then .

Fred1new - 20 May 2016 12:27 - 2020 of 12628

The con party sycophants supported Heath when he negotiated to become a member of the EU.

(I doubt they showed much loyalty to the UK or the torrid party.)

The remnants of tory rebels (yesterday's men) over joining the EU have either shrivelled up, dribbling into the drinks, or dead.

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