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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 20 May 2016 13:43 - 2023 of 12628

Gove says immigration will make NHS 'unsustainable' if UK stays in EU

Michael Gove has claimed that the NHS will no longer be sustainable if Britain stays in the EU because an immigrant population the size of Scotland could come to the UK by 2030.

The justice secretary and leading Brexit campaigner said if the UK votes to remainin the EU on 23 June he would press the government for an emergency cash injection for the NHS, while if it voted to leave he would push for hundreds of millions of pounds currently sent to the EU to be spent on the health service.

Gove’s speech coincided with official figures showing the NHS in England has run up a record deficit of £2.45bn – the biggest overspend in its history – as it struggles to cope with a surge in demand for care while suffering a major budget squeeze.

The Vote Leave immigration forecasts are likely to be strongly challenged by the remain campaign as they presume that five new countries will join the EU within four years. David Cameron has said Turkey is unlikely to join the EU in his lifetime.

Stan - 20 May 2016 13:57 - 2024 of 12628

Celebrities and now Gove quoted.. Some of you really do live in a sheltered little world of your own if you think anything of those two.

jimmy b - 20 May 2016 14:09 - 2025 of 12628

Gove is hugely important he could be your Prime Minister one day .

Stan - 20 May 2016 14:10 - 2026 of 12628

Nonsense.

jimmy b - 20 May 2016 14:22 - 2027 of 12628

You should have respect Stan Gove may rule you one day.

2517GEORGE - 20 May 2016 14:26 - 2028 of 12628

Stan prefers to be ruled by someone he doesn't know.
2517

Fred1new - 20 May 2016 14:30 - 2029 of 12628

In preference to the Gove I would take my chance.

2517GEORGE - 20 May 2016 14:34 - 2030 of 12628

That's the 2nd time in recent days you have answered for Stan, are you both Fred and Stan, or did you forget who you were?
2517

Stan - 20 May 2016 14:44 - 2031 of 12628

Gove?.. also known as the "Little Boy"

It's a laugh a minute on here -):

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 14:46 - 2032 of 12628

Blimey George i know we have a go , but Freda probably spilt his bottle hearing that , comparing him with stan with a little s .

MaxK - 20 May 2016 15:23 - 2033 of 12628

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 16:11 - 2034 of 12628

Mr Junker is saying if we leave we will be deserters and treated like a third country , he says more but Gisella Stewart who is a Labour MP campaingning for Brexit said ," another day and another threat from those that are trying to intimidate the British people into voting to vote to remain in the failing EU , these extraordinary comments are a new low ."

VICTIM - 20 May 2016 16:13 - 2035 of 12628

See that Freda LABOUR .

jimmy b - 20 May 2016 16:20 - 2036 of 12628

It is rather odd because i have heard people say they are voting out after Obama told us we would be at the back of the queue ,the British don't like being threatened .

I now hope Trump wins the US election ,he will do deals with us especially after Cameron has to stand down.

Stan - 20 May 2016 16:32 - 2037 of 12628

..Tramp now

Fred1new - 20 May 2016 16:51 - 2038 of 12628

2517GEORGE Send an email to 2517GEORGE View 2517GEORGE's profile - 20 May 2016 14:34 - 2030 of 2037

That's the 2nd time in recent days you have answered for Stan, are you both Fred and Stan, or did you forget who you were?
2517



No, just making a statement.

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Dumbo,

Looking at the market and bookies for the last few days, it appears to me that they are marking in a vote for remaining in.

Good to see.




VICTIM - 20 May 2016 16:58 - 2039 of 12628

Have you ever thought that with your distaste of Dave , Freda ,you are just the sort of cannon fodder he is relying on to vote remain , strange but it doesn't seem to bother you .

Fred1new - 20 May 2016 17:23 - 2040 of 12628

I think Cameron and many of the present tory leadership are a disgrace to politics and often lie about their economic figures.

Unfortunately, he is intelligent, but he often uses his intelligence for his own personal benefit and not the long-term benefit of all in the country.

However, I think he is right in his judgement over in or out.

The judgement is difficult to make, but I would prefer to be working as a group than "pirating" on the outside of a group at their expense.

Have they made mistakes as an organisation? Yes.

The biggest mistake was expanding the number of members before allowing the original membership to bed down. (The UK was pushing for this to be done.)

Many others.

How many U-turns has this country made in 6 months and 6 years?

Change and modify, don't tear the walls down!


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jimmy b - 20 May 2016 19:10 - 2041 of 12628

Fred still throwing insults about calling people names just because they have a different view ,your on your own here with Stan (or yourself) whatever the case may be , most people think your an idiot so stop calling people dumbo when you show every day what a bigoted , ignorant moron you are.

Stan - 20 May 2016 19:38 - 2042 of 12628

Pot & Kettle alert!
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