Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

It is rather odd because i have heard people say they are voting out after Obama told us we would be at the back of the queue ,the British don't like being threatened .

I now hope Trump wins the US election ,he will do deals with us especially after Cameron has to stand down.

..Tramp now

2517GEORGE Send an email to 2517GEORGE View 2517GEORGE's profile - 20 May 2016 14:34 - 2030 of 2037

That's the 2nd time in recent days you have answered for Stan, are you both Fred and Stan, or did you forget who you were?
2517


No, just making a statement.

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Dumbo,

Looking at the market and bookies for the last few days, it appears to me that they are marking in a vote for remaining in.

Good to see.

Have you ever thought that with your distaste of Dave , Freda ,you are just the sort of cannon fodder he is relying on to vote remain , strange but it doesn't seem to bother you .

I think Cameron and many of the present tory leadership are a disgrace to politics and often lie about their economic figures.

Unfortunately, he is intelligent, but he often uses his intelligence for his own personal benefit and not the long-term benefit of all in the country.

However, I think he is right in his judgement over in or out.

The judgement is difficult to make, but I would prefer to be working as a group than "pirating" on the outside of a group at their expense.

Have they made mistakes as an organisation? Yes.

The biggest mistake was expanding the number of members before allowing the original membership to bed down. (The UK was pushing for this to be done.)

Many others.

How many U-turns has this country made in 6 months and 6 years?

Change and modify, don't tear the walls down!


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Fred still throwing insults about calling people names just because they have a different view ,your on your own here with Stan (or yourself) whatever the case may be , most people think your an idiot so stop calling people dumbo when you show every day what a bigoted , ignorant moron you are.

Pot & Kettle alert!

Didn't hear you Dumbo!

There are reports that house prices could fall 18% if we leave the EU. Irrespective of whether it is true, it may be enough to frighten people into voting to stay in. he fear factor is building up and people will compare it to a leap into the unknown.

There you go again pathetic is the only word I can describe straight in with another threat , you want to take a good look at yourself man , if that's what you are . Haystack why don't you tell us about the threats of endless Migrants , over crowding , mass house building , overworked Hospitals and staff , being ordered what to do without consultation , the list of negatives is endless , We don't need to hear your lovers latest assault on us from you , it gets spewed out daily .

Because there is credibility gap.

I asked the Chancellor if lower house prices could actually be seen as a positive thing, particularly for first time buyers.
"You don't get affordable homes by wrecking the economy," he told me.


I think he's made a blunder about falling house prices , if you want to sell your house and house prices go down, so will the price when you buy. Also it will be good for first time buyers.

His answer that "You don't get affordable homes by wrecking the economy," show's he couldn't answer the question.

House prices falling would be good ,they are way over valued ,average young people have no chance of ever buying .
Prices have again raced ahead by stupid percentages ,it's boom and bust all over again .
Now who said no more boom and bust ,oh yes Gordon Brown.

Thank you aldwickk a decent sensible post , unlike the closet panic artist that is Haystack . I was thinking a bit of that . Thanks .

The great celebrity house price slump: Suddenly, stars can't shift their mansions - no matter how many millions they lop off the price. Hankies out!

By Annabel Venning for the Daily Mail

Published: 22:00, 20 May 2016 | Updated: 02:53, 21 May 2016


The rest of the story of poor rich folk is here, complete with pics:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3601681/The-great-celebrity-house-price-slump-Suddenly-stars-t-shift-mansions-no-matter-millions-lop-price-Hankies-out.html

the super-luxury end is certainly being hit as the russkies, chinese and nigerians start to panic lest their laundered money gets too much attention from the authorities

And who has been chancellor for last 6 years?

Brilliant economic policies.

Should be in the market-place with Cameron and his barrow boy techniques.

Mind he gets on well with the Chinese and Saudis.


Also, seems to have Pals in Panama.

Blimey cynic it's because of Brexit apparently , or so some want us to believe .

2046 - surely a case of malapropism; it should be credibility