Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

The current spending limit is 942.8bn euros (£803.4bn) so the actual spending cap will be reduced by 34.4bn euros (£29.3bn).
"I think the British public can be proud that we have cut the seven-year credit card limit for the European Union for the first time ever," Prime Minister David Cameron told an end-of-summit press conference.
He said, however, that his country's net contributions would rise - but by less than had been feared. He called it a "good deal" for Britain.
The deal "shows that working with allies it is possible to take real steps towards reform in the European Union", Mr Cameron said.
However, the EU Parliament must still approve the deal - and some legislators have suggested that the cuts are unacceptable. Securing any parliamentary approval is likely to take months.

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my cynical old self wonders how spending less but costing uk more equate with having allegedly cut the eu budget and so and so forth

why do smoke and mirrors spring instantly to mind?

and all the above presupposes that that splendid self-serving institution aka the european parliament, does not amend and emasculate any genuine cuts that are allegedly already agreed

It is costing us more because Blair gave away some of our rebate and that deal continues. We cannot change that as it is now enshrined in EU law.

"He said, however, that his country's net contributions would rise - but by less than had been feared. He called it a "good deal" for Britain."


He is a barrow boy at best and a con artist at his worst.

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Hay,

I believe the enquiry into Staffs Hospital started under labour.

I have found a bit about it in the BBC website.

"David Cameron has always insisted that Britain's EU rebate was non negotiable. Nevertheless the value of it has been falling thanks to the last budget deal done by Tony Blair."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21380462

Cameron is doing well then and couple that with the devaluation of pound we must quids in.

We will make a Conservative voter out of you yet.

He can't even make some Conservative voters vote Conservative at the moment.. let alone Fred -):

Aldi now-


Aldi Frozen Ready Meals 100% Horsemeat
Sky News – 5 minutes ago.

It seems non of these companies are testing batches before they are put on the shelves. The stores are as guilty as the suppliers. Very disgusting all of it. How long do you ask has this been going on, as I'm sure the stores have no idea.

Dave Camoron ‏@EtonOldBoys

Dave get a grip, we cut the EU budget and end up paying more, You pay down UK Debt and it increases by £300bn #exposetorylies

Cameron is boasting about Pyrrhic victory, which hasn't been approved as yet.

Garbage for the tory right wingers.

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"How could Britain opine on the next seven-year budget, asked Mr Shulz, when it might not even be a member of the EU by the end of it? For good measure he attacked George Osborne, the UK chancellor, for saying (in Mr Shulz's version of what was presumably a private conversation at the Davos economic forum) that he cared less about what the EU committed itself to spend than he did about what the UK actually had to cough up.

Casting doubt over whether the European Parliament would actually approve a trimmed budget once the national leaders signed off on it, the president implied that its members might come under such pressure to do so that they should be allowed to vote in secret."

gf
We are paying more because Blair gave away a lot of our rebate. Do make an attempt to read the whole story instead of just the Guardian headlines (or is it Socialist Worker).

cameron hesltine hoy cleggs wifes family
get MILLIONS IN LAND SUBSIDES FROM THE EU WOULD YOU VOTE TO COME OUT
cameron is very dishonest

Clegg's wife's family live in northern Spain.

Fred - it is YOU who say it was a Pyrrhic victory, which rather indicates that you have no idea what it means .... however, the extent and reality of any "victory" will only be possible to judge once the disreputable mob in the eu parliament have had a hack and kick about, and ultimately voted ..... until that time, only the empty vessels will see fit to make much deprecatory noise

Cynic,

As per usual a prat like remark which one is coming to expect from you.

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Analyse, what he might gain against what he has probably lost.


Cameron and those of his ilk are as having to to fall back on falsities. (Pity it wasn't their swords.) Burt the pattern of behaviour is now very common with this U-turn cabinet, who are making hollow policies seemingly on the hoof in attempts to appear populist, but appealing more more to a minority of the country. Short term gain for long term loss.

Notice how some preach "democracy" to others, but when is comes to the secret ballot, which in previous times "demanded" no prefer coercion.

This moral codes of this group of spine less "old boys" stinks more and more.

What on earth did that all mean?

typical empty vessel noise from fred; all huff and puff and anti anything and everything the present government might have achieved - or not as the case may be .... and this from the champion democrat who can't be bothered to cast a vote, thereby believing he has retained his right to be universally disparaging and destructive.

if fred is so damn clever with at least a good percentage of right answers, why doesn't he stand for at least his parish council, so he can be publicly judged?

Who is 'Burt the pattern' ?


Excellent win for Scotland btw.

My God, Scotland won! What next? Time to crack open a bottle of something nice.