Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

mansion tax .... much amused to read, admittedly in "The Right-Wing Gazette", quite a long article re this tax, in which the Lib-Dems and Labour both rather shivered and squirmed away from its application - e.g. exemptions for peeps who had lived in their houses for a long time and were retired

stupid bastards!

Fred1new - 21 Feb 2013 18:10 - 21673 of 21677

Wait until 2015.

So you are (if you voted), a labour man?

Skinny,

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My father told me that the colliery that he managed, was profitable down to the people who work on "his" (the) colliery, the people who supported them and the owners who had invested in the pit. The employees, management and owners tended to have mutual respect for each other. This was unusual in the South Wales Minefield area.

Also, my father, when I was in my teenager, told me not to allow anyone to own me and to accept responsibility for the decisions that I made and actions I took.

Again, he told me that when I signed a document, it was a representation of what I thought and that I should not take my signature lightly, or signed to something that I did not think appropriate.

Strangely, he was a relatively quiet man, but retrospectively seems to have influenced me quite strongly.

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I do agree with much of what the Socialist party has done, during the period when in power since WW2. I think much has done for the benefit of society as general, but disagree with some of the crazy periods of ill-thought out and impractical ideology in 70s and 80s.

But realise that realise when any policies are implemented it is often necessary to the reviewed them in practice and modified them as necessary. Also, think they made a number of mistakes in their last period in power, but also note the improvement in the quality of life for the “masses” in their 15years of “rule”.

Again, I think the expectancies of some of the unions in various post war periods was not in accord with the possibilities of the period.

The unions were as immoderate as the “employers”.

I have agreed with some of what the Conservative party has done and various periods of "power", but disagree often of the way many things were done. Certainly I disagree with the protectionism for and legislation for the few at the expense of, and disregard of many in society. (That is why they have earned the title of the nasty party.)

I had some respect for many in the Liberal party and also the ideals of SNP, and felt they could have been more effective. Still have some respect, but do question their motives.

Also, had some respect for some Communist's and their ideals, but thought often to be as misguided as the right of the tory party. Again, I thought as a teenager that much of the ideology was impractical and from experience of communism in practice in my early twenties and from family members, saw the abuse of the party machinery. But one can see similar patterns of behaviour observed in the hierarchy of the present tory party, or labour party, although to a less blatant and probably to a lesser degree but, often with the same aim that is of keeping power.

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I hold no allegiance to any party, or specific political ideology for that matter, and I don't feel the necessity to vote for an independent candidate, even if there was one available, as they would not represent my views.

I have no objection to you voting for what you feel right for you.

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It made me smile!

Pub owner fined after Irish 'nuns' are caught drinking illegally

An Irish publican has been prosecuted after police found dozens of "nuns" drinking illegally, several hours past closing time on his premises.

read Black Diamonds if you want to a fascinating history of about the rise and demise of one coal mine and its owners in yorkshire (wentworth to be exact)

Fred yes thats correct you have to have a license but mines a private dam. it belongs to the company I run which invest in short stay and rental property.

Birds Eye withdraws meals after Belgium horse DNA find

Birds Eye said its chili con carne had tested positive for 2% horse DNA.

The news comes as the Food Standards Agency prepares to announce results of its latest tests into the contamination of processed beef products.

The tests - on a range of ready meals - are likely to indicate whether the horsemeat scandal has been contained.

Cyners, Harold Wilson was certainly working class. I was born 4 houses down from where he was born on manchester road Huddersfield, Cowlersley/milnsbridge.

We both went to same primary school and junior school Milnsbridge, and secondary school Royds Hall and yep it was a grammer school in Harolds day. (not mine I failed 11 plus)

He was noted for being a speed reader, genious and a good friend of chap at Elland gannex (crook) .....coats.

To this day hes still rated as brainiest MP ever, Rachel Revees (i kid u not) just behind. Forgot which college it was now where they both went.

New College, Oxford?

Not sure skinny know they both went to same college cant remember where i read it.

Maybe it was after uni.

Can anybody help where would you find that info.????????????????

Just like to thank both the BBC and ITV for good viewing yesterday evening, a marked improvement on the shite the night before...... Brit Awards....... numptys..... extension of X factor garbage.

That guy who presented it should be a prop forward for Wales.

Recorded BBC 2 cycling Laura Trott, shes going to be a World Great and watched live the 2 footy matches. brilliant games both. Well done.

goldfinger - just type where was Harold Wilson educated in the top corner and google will tell you everything you want to know - it does say Jesus College Oxford.

Cheers mate.

Got it London School Of Economics.edit.... No think it was one of the oxford unis.

3m - no probs with anyone who has the brains to get into oxbridge ..... it just amuses me that 'arold is perceived by most to have been a good and solid working class lad wot made good, dinne

btw, i think i have worked out some good recipes for lamb breasts - they're currently braising slowly for 3 hours

cynic, I am not getting into this one only telling gf how to find 'arolds education. I am not a red and never will be.

Cyners for once believe somebody, he was a genuine working class kid. you had to be around where we both grew up. I know he later moved up the road to a better house about 100 yards away but that didnt make him higher class. think it was Warnford road summat like that.

Royds Hall was a rough house aswel......... dont kid me that he was anything more than working class or Ill get my mum who knew him well and his family to come on here and give u a lecture....... and youl like that.............. NOT.

I read this story about the nuns earlier and was looking forward to a bit of scandal as a very lapsed catholic/athiest.

My local priest used to drink scotch heavily at the catholic social club and probably at home. His doctors kept warning him that it was causing damage to his arteries. They said stop or you will lose a leg and sure enough they took off his foot. Then they mentioned the other foot, which was removed. They then said stop or you will die and he carried on drinking and died.


God wasn't much use to him.

Shame they didn't teach spelling and grammar at Milnsbridge and Royds Hall.