Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Take some more medication will .

Couple of observations on Cameron.

If the end of the world is nigh if we exit then why was he considering it himself before he got his wonderful (NOT) deal with the EU ? Makes him look a right chump imo.

He has told his version of the downside of leaving but I've heard him say nothing about anything positive about staying in except of course his version of the downside won't happen.

Vote out and we get rid of EU and bloody Cameron and Osborne at same time , that's gotta be good for the economy :)

You could also argue that older people have more experience of the world and it's ways than young people.

Perhaps more (weighted) votes as you get older might be more sensible?

Tell me how many young people know what's best for them , I voted for EEC but look at it now . If we'd known then what we know now there would have been a NO last time . We were lied to then and being lied to now .

We are in a new age now Britain will be hammered and not a thing anyone can do ,if we stay in . It's drain the powerful countries fill them up with others rejects and pay for the rest of eternity .Except Germany .

"Vote out and we get rid of EU and bloody Cameron and Osborne at same time , that's gotta be good for the economy :)"

That's an Interesting observation Dil -):

good stuff that hindsight .... must get some more of it

"If you’re not a socialist before you’re twenty-five, you have no heart; if you are a socialist after twenty-five, you have no brain".
That is why the socialists always want to lower the voting age. The fact is that older people have more skin in the game.
Germany and France wish to curb the power of the big internet companies. Tell your kids that they will restrict Facebook and Whatsapp and the Brexiteers will win in a landslide. No more fanciful than what Cameron and Osbourne are saying.
Makes me think of the plonkers that thought up the Red Flag Act due to the danger of motor cars travelling faster than horses:
The most draconic restrictions and speed limits were imposed by the 1865 act (the "Red Flag Act") which required all road locomotives, which included automobiles, to travel at a maximum of 4 mph (6.4 km/h) in the country and 2 mph (3.2 km/h) in the city - as well as requiring a man carrying a red flag to walk in front of road vehicles hauling multiple wagons.

It's not the votes, it's how you count them....


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/24/austria-far-right-freedom-party-cries-foul-presidential-election-defeat



On his Facebook page, the party leader, Heinz-Christian Strache, seized on irregularities in Linz and Waidhofen, where the final result announced a voter turnout of 146.9%. The interior ministry said the figure was the result of a data entry error.

Should brew it .

That's what could happen here MaxK. Indiscretions .

The remain camp are doing a much more professional job than the leaves. They are more visible and seem to have a strategy.

With you there Haystack.

Based on economics we are better off in. I'm no supporter of existing EU politics though, we need many changes. A single currency not practical either, needs to change.

Would like to see a close vote, preferable 53% In.

Not a Cameron admirer, but fair play to him. All credit for playing his hand well.

Boris needs to stop talking bananas.

Yes can't disagree, all the remainer's have to do is put out silly numbers
and scaremongering threats, with multitudes of scenario's, and so far
the Leave side are finding it hard to counteract.

The remain camp consist of a government plus our money plus endless phone calls to endless interested parties and many many lies , deceptions ,cons ,suckers , people who defend their glorious leader through any wrongdoing ,never his fault , plus weakling scaremongering wimps basically .

And the BBC bias of course .

May be my imagination but I think the unholy two are getting more air time than those nice leaver people, even if their claims are now bordering on lunacy.
As Lincoln said "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
Nice touch to see our Dave copying that dipstick Obama and giving his lecture in front of an audience of sycophants. There again perhaps they were forced to listen by their employer. Seems to be the fashion these days to coherce employees. Third world tactics.

There's one hell of a let down to come at some point .

And Boris says Bananas. That's all he's got .

The lead spokes person for the outers refuses to hand out their NHS leaflets because of the lies contained within them.

Should have run it past Steve Hilton then.