bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
tweenie
- 01 Jun 2007 09:35
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?
anyway 2p by xmas.
:-)
...............I'll get my coat.
garyble
- 01 Jun 2007 09:42
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Tweenie, your let off is that you didn't specify which xmas!
nyleve
- 01 Jun 2007 10:47
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Remember reading here about 2 years ago "1 by Christmas", how things change, be quite pleased to see 2p now - lol
Dave
aldwickk
- 01 Jun 2007 10:56
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Were those imaginary friends of Alan's imaginary or did i imagine it ?
jimward9
- 01 Jun 2007 11:14
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Greenseal !
I would like to know exactly what the problem is.
If its to slow for food packing, it could still be used for other things, all may not be lost yet.
garyble
- 01 Jun 2007 11:36
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Give it up Jim.
The question should be precisely what are the patents being challenged?.....Starpol, Wrap...?
jimward9
- 01 Jun 2007 12:15
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i see your glass is 3/4 empty, mine is 1/4 full nearly!
Tonyrelaxes
- 01 Jun 2007 12:19
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Kimoldfield/Greekman
I can't remember which of you said you were thinking of complaining about matters to the FSA.
Although I agree with others this is unlikely to result in anything more than another pile of correspondance, if you are actually embarking on this please Email me tonyrelaxes@hotmail.com
From Monday night I am away and generally out of touch for many weeks. Oh how I would like a NICE surprise when I get back to civilisation.
sellsell
- 01 Jun 2007 12:24
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Tony, before you go, do you still believe (hope!) there is a future with SEO. Do you have any insight you could share that might help lift all the gloom?
Thanks and wishing you a great trip!
Tonyrelaxes
- 01 Jun 2007 13:05
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Gosh - thats testing my brain !!
I have no great insight or knowledge other than what is out there for all to find out.
2 or 3 years ago SEO had the ideas/products but were basically a bunch of boffins not business people.
They bought Biotec for twice Sphere's bid. The purchase appeared brilliant except they probably couldn't afford it alone and certainly they felt they needed Sphere on board with it to retain them as BioTecs biggest customer and sold them half. That deal is now beginning to look flawed. Did our boffins get outwitted by the French as well as events?
New management came, again more technical than commercial, but significantly moved the internal structuring and financing forward. But they could well have suffered from a behind the scenes vengance campaign from the displaced old management.
We now have a proven businessman in charge, appointed and backed by Institutions. Hopefully unhindered and untainted by the past politics.
He has been coming to terms with what he inherited. Clearly saying some hitherto unpalatable things and shelving a sacred cow or two.
It would be nice to say I think they will succeed, but is that my hope rather than a fair assessment?
Assuming they do start to realise the potential my only fear is being taken out at a price that would not truely reflect that potential. It would look very good on PMs CV and the Institutional Investors to have come, seen, turned it and sold it at (say) 4 times what it was in a short period. But that still won't look too rosy in my portfolio.
Although in or near cities at times during the next two weeks as I ride east, after that for the large part of where I am going on a motorbike there is hardly any electricity, certainly no Internet, or any telephone coverage for miles and miles, in fact days. Therefore worrying about SEO is pointless.
I will just relax.....
pinnacles
- 01 Jun 2007 13:09
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I will make my decision on this next week after my intelligence is up-dated.
However, to be honest the price is so low now, I might as well see this one to the bitter end.
tweenie
- 01 Jun 2007 13:41
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Where do you go to get your intelligence updated?
I want shares in that technology.
:-)
boldtrader
- 01 Jun 2007 13:45
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Thanks for your candid viewpoint Tony,have a great trip.pinnacles I trust You may share any updated "intelligence" and regarding your last sentence I, and I no doubt, many others will be in the very same boat and I hope its not the Titanic.Cheers.
driver
- 01 Jun 2007 13:54
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sellsell
Read the research page from top to bottom there must be some thing in there with some value.
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
moneyplus
- 01 Jun 2007 14:49
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up a bit today and don't forget they still have starpol or wrap 2000 whatever--I remember them dropping a wrapped champagne bottle out of a helicopter etc. some people are still buying!
jimward9
- 01 Jun 2007 15:04
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wonder if this is to do with Biotec,
or why they are not building plants in the USA.
METABOLIX, INC.
Form:S-1/A Filing Date:11/6/2006
Our first platform, which we will be commercializing througha strategic alliance with Archer Daniels Midland Company, or ADM, is aproprietary, large-scale microbial fermentation system for producing a versatilefamily of naturally occurring polymers known as polyhydroxyalkanoates, which we call PHA Natural Plastics To exploit our first technology platform, we are working with ADM to build the Commercial Manufacturing Facility in Clinton, Iowa, which we expect will commence commercial production of PHA Natural Plastics in 2008. he facility will produce PHA Natural Plastics which are highly versatile and range in properties from strong, moldable thermoplastics to highly elastic materials and soft, sticky compositions. They can be made as resins or as latex with excellent film-forming characteristics. These properties allow for a wide variety of
commercial applications, offering an environmentally-friendly alternative to petroleum-derived synthetic materials which are not biodegradable. Through the strategic alliance with ADM we intend to initially position PHA Natural Plastics as premium priced specialty materials catering to customers who want to match the functionality of petrochemical-based plastic, but add the dimension of environmental responsibility to their products and brands.
With ADM we have initiated product and business development activities including pilot production of material at an 8 ton per month scale facility, working with potential customers, and initiation of qualification trials of our material for selected customer applications. We expect that our products will initially be sold to companies that are: establishing themselves as leaders of the emerging market trend toward environmentally responsible products and services;
Intellectual Property
Our continued success depends in large part on our proprietary technology. We rely on a combination of patent, copyright, trademark and trade secret laws, as well as confidentiality agreements, to establish and protect our proprietary rights.
We own over 320 issued patents and 100 patent applications world wide, and we have licensed from third parties approximately 60 issued patents and over 30 patent applications world wide. All but 5 of these issued patents, and their foreign counterparts, relate to the technology in our current business plan. These patents cover, among other things, the fundamental biotechnology needed to produce PHA Natural Plastics as well as compositions, processes and derived products. Of the licensed patents and patent applications, many are owned by Massachusetts Institute of Technology and exclusively licensed to us. Under the MIT licensing agreement, we currently pay annual license fees. During the fiscl year ended December 31, 2005, these fees totaled approximately $25,000. In addition, under this licensing agreement, we are obligated to pay royalties of future sales of products, if any, covered by the licensed patents.Our patents are directed to compositions of polymers, genes, vectors, expression systems in plants and bacteria, devices, coatings, films, as well as methods of manufacture and use. The terms of such patents are set to expire at various times between 2009 and 2022.
Legal Proceedings
On March 8, 2005, P&G filed a nullity action in the Federal Patent Court in Munich, Germany, against the German equivalent of one of our patents covering the method of use of producing biopolymers. The patent at issue is licensed exclusively to us by MIT and will expire in July 2010. The nullity action alleges, among other things, extension of subject matter, insufficiency of disclosure, lack of novelty, and lack of inventive step. We are controlling the response to the nullity action with MIT's cooperation. We believe this nullity action is without merit and we intend to vigorously defend this action. However, the litigation process is inherently uncertain and there can be no assurance as to the ultimate outcome of this matter. From time to time, we may be subject to other legal proceedings and claims arising in the ordinary course of business. We are not currently aware of any such proceedings or claims that we believe will have, individually or in the aggregate, a material adverse effect on our business, financial condition or results of operations.
tweenie
- 01 Jun 2007 15:17
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IF this is the crux, then Given that the patent only lasts till 2010 , i think they've already lost the fight.
oblomov
- 01 Jun 2007 18:21
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Up 22.9% today - you dont often see a share do that!
If I'd bought 300,000 worth yesterday I'd almost have got back what I've lost.
Damn it! Missed my chance.