Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Just for Manuel and Hays, who like Dreams are lying down in front of an oncoming juggernaut.

Don't move, the country really needs you!

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Foreign Secretary William Hague says the Conservative Party does not need a "drastic change of course" despite its poor showing in local election results last week.

He was responding to a surge in support for the UK Independence Party, which won over 140 seats.

He wrote in the Sunday Telegraph that Tories shared voter concerns about immigration, welfare and living costs.

Mr Hague said that while the election results "are better for the government than is usual in the middle of a parliament... they do show that there is a good deal of dissatisfaction and unhappiness in the country, in particular among some traditional Conservative supporters".

Mr Hague said that the results required a "threefold response" from the Conservative Party.

Firstly, he said, it must "underline to all those feeling aggrieved that we don't simply 'understand' how they feel - on immigration, on welfare, on bringing down the cost of living - we feel it too."

And the party needs to "relay much more forcefully how we're acting in all these areas", he says.

"The deficit has been cut by a third and 1.25 million new private sector jobs have been created. We have brought in a cap on benefits.

"We have pledged a referendum on Europe. These are the things we came into government to do for the country - and we must shout about them even louder."

Mr Hague also said that the "important" third response must be "a resolve not to fall into the trap of lowest common denominator politics".

I would suppose that adds up to no change until the next U-Turn.

Mind it is well thought out and consistent with row, row, row the sinking boat ashore.

Bail, bail, bail out and plead with the Cayman Isles for another bail-out.

Hear Michael is in talks with Nick.

Did you see the comment' "the election results are better for the government than is usual in the middle of a parliament"?

Borrowing to pay for food. TORY britain for you........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22417334#

It is the same in all recessions. Not specific to the political complection of the government.

No, it's impossible to de-leverage debt overnight and that's just an overhang from the one-eyed Scottish monster's debt-fuelled bubble. This is TORY Britain for you!

golfinger

The story says many people use credit cards to buy food. That's a bit of a non story. People use credit cards to buy all sorts of things such as food, petrol etc. They then settle the bill at the end of the month. That happens in a recession and at other times.

The Texas House approved a bushel of bills Saturday to further soften gun laws that were already among the country's most firearms-friendly, allowing college students to carry handguns in class, putting potentially armed marshals in public schools and exempting the state from any future federal bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines or universal background checks.

Sounds as if Osborne is creating a Banana republic for his mates and tax dodgers.

But of course the profits will be parked offshore and with relaxed Financial Regulations will disappear into the ether, or tin pot countries and offshore isles, similar to the Cayman isles, for manipulation of a suitable friendly government.

Only problem for some, is that internet patrolling is improving day by day and traceability of funds easier.

The number of safe havens are becoming fewer and fewer.

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Hays,

Post 24685.

Bloody madness.

Probably down to the "Tea party" elements of the republicans, who seem to have much in common with the "looney disconnected relics" of the tory right wing.

It is an alternate spelling of complexion and one that I favour.

One lives and learns..

Hays have you not heard of Food Banks opening at record levels.?

This is FOOD BANKS not soup kitchens as used by the 'no fixed abode'.

The same working familys who are having to use credit cards, pay day loans and borrow just to eat.

Thats Tory Britain for you.

Mind I think Tory as we know it now is on borrowed times, the priveledged Eton, Bully rat pack are destined for the scrap heap imo.

Thank god they won't be recycled.

Food banks have been around for years. This nothing new. The numbers usingg them is probably an unreliable statisic as it is just put around by left wing activists. Unfortunately the UK is in debt and austerity is what is necessary.

The oracle has spoken.

It appears still out of date, disconnected but still here.

just how right wing is ukip?
all parties have their loony fringe, and assuredly ukip is no exception ....... for all that, there is a definite impression, that populist policies (wishlist) apart, ukip would place its innate character in the pretty far right spectrum of the conservative party

is this a fair assessment?
sensible comment would be appreciated

My guess is that UKIP took quite a large number of votes from Labour. One reason for thinking that is that Labour recently only got about the same percentage as they did when Brown lost the election. You would have thought that Labour would have had a huge increase in their share of the vote in a mid term election. Labour may have gained quite a few council seats, but only gained two county councils. The reason for Labour's poor showing must be UKIP.

The notion that UKIP is right wing comes from a number of reasons. Firstly the areas of immigration and the EU are regarded as right wing policies. That opinion is created because it is the opposite to Labour's stance in recent years and that would tend to make them right wing or at least appear that way. The policies are also similar to those of the BNP which is also regarded as right wing. I don't agree with that as I regard BNP and UKIP as neither right or left wing. This because the one thing they have in common is a lack of other policies upon which to make that judgement. They are both a one or two policy party.

LOL....poor old Hays in denial mode again.

At some point the penny will have to drop.