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How to profit from Betting Exchanges (BEX)     

Scripophilist - 27 Oct 2004 23:40


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How would you like to trade a market where you get large regular price swings every 10 minutes in the afternoon, seven days a week. A
market where all prices are set purely by supply and demand, few transaction costs, no middle men and you only pay commission if you win? Where you can freely act as a market maker and where you have direct market access and where you can create a spread for others to take?

Betfair has revolutionised the betting market and created an open platform for exchanging risk on sports events. This market is now viewed much more like a traditional financial risk market than an old fashioned betting market. Smart users have realised that there are huge opportunities on Betfair because they can buy and sell risk in much the same way they would in a normal financial market but without the burden of cost or the restricted access that is usually associated with traditional financial markets.

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Harlosh - 05 Dec 2004 18:01 - 255 of 10502

Nice win on C.Palace v Charlton after greening up on the draw. (I know I shouldn't have)
Just as well, as Charlton scored in dying seconds.

Fundamentalist - 05 Dec 2004 20:31 - 256 of 10502

John

well done mate - looks like im going to be around the early part of the week if you wanted a look at the software

Scripophilist - 06 Dec 2004 16:40 - 257 of 10502

Harlosh, well done!

Spaceman - 06 Dec 2004 17:14 - 258 of 10502

what does "greened up" mean ?

Harlosh - 06 Dec 2004 17:20 - 259 of 10502

Spaceman,

It's basically a process of laying off a bet so that you win whatever the result eg whatever horse wins a race, you win. Marvellous.

kernow - 07 Dec 2004 08:07 - 260 of 10502

Just looking at FTSE bets. Can anyone tell me what the index open price is and how betfair determine it. Presumable it is not last night's close? TIA

Kayak - 07 Dec 2004 10:34 - 261 of 10502

Yes it is the previous night's close, kernow.

kernow - 07 Dec 2004 10:53 - 262 of 10502

Thanks Kayak. Given the 1 hr intraday shows the target figure I wonder why the midday/day ones don't.
Having great fun and greened up on the midday FTSE even if only +21p on the up!

Kayak - 07 Dec 2004 11:09 - 263 of 10502

Well done Kernow. To be honest I don't normally green up on the FTSE unless the outcome is very much in doubt. If it's pretty obvious it's going to stay one side or the other it just costs money to green up. It does mean you have to keep watching though.

kernow - 07 Dec 2004 11:32 - 264 of 10502

I take your point. The novelty of a profit either way was hard for me to resist :-) ...and I suppose a quick lurch down in the FTSE will let me stay green but increase the up profit. I'm content to look/learn for now.

chartist2004 - 07 Dec 2004 11:44 - 265 of 10502

Kayak - A Q ref Betfair am I able to cancel a ftse midday 'above' bet before the end of the hour's end? tia

Kayak - 07 Dec 2004 11:54 - 266 of 10502

Yes you can cancel any bet provided it hasn't been taken.

chartist2004 - 07 Dec 2004 12:10 - 267 of 10502

Thanks K ....

Kayak - 07 Dec 2004 22:26 - 268 of 10502

There is a new Betfair demo which you may like to try. Very glossy.

http://www.betfairpromo.com/tutorial/index.asp

Spaceman - 07 Dec 2004 22:36 - 269 of 10502

Thanks Harlosh

Scripophilist - 08 Dec 2004 11:20 - 270 of 10502

Another cracking night on the football last night. Managed to find a PC to log in at while at Canary wharf yesterday evening. Just couldn't resist the opportunity and a quick return too!!

Then decamped to Bar 38 and got drunk on the proceeds. Managed to (just) catch the last train home. Now regretting things this morning!!

chartist2004 - 08 Dec 2004 13:22 - 271 of 10502

Scrip - You must be the only one that comes home with 'more ' after a night out on the p**s than you went out with. 'well done':o)
M

Kayak - 08 Dec 2004 16:38 - 272 of 10502

A bumper payout for me on the FTSE today, over 4.5 times my stake in total. The days on which the FTSE doesn't move much can be great earners because of the reversals.

Harlosh - 08 Dec 2004 17:03 - 273 of 10502

Kayak,

Could you explain what you mean by "because of the reversals" ?

Thanks

Kayak - 08 Dec 2004 17:17 - 274 of 10502

Yes, I was talking about the intraday markets. When the FTSE is not moving much it will stay close to the line that determines whether it is up or down for the next hour. It might well be up for some of the time and then reverse to being down or vice versa.

If the odds when it is up are for instance 1.5 to close up and you foresee that it will reverse, you can lay at 1.5, i.e. stand to gain 200 for every 100 of possible loss, which is a very good risk/reward ratio. If you foresee that the FTSE will stay up then the best you can do is back it at 1.5, i.e. stand to gain 50 for every 100 of possible loss. The former trade will obviously make you much happier if you are correct so reversals are good for business.

It is often possible to lay at 1.2 or so (100 for every 20 risked) and exceptionally under 1.1. Should you be lucky enough to be convinced that a 1.01 is going to turn over then hit it with 100 to gain 10,000 :-)
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