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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

MaxK - 01 Jun 2016 10:27 - 2601 of 12628

Re: the program.

Did anyone notice the boat/hovercraft manufacturer who wanted to export to Brazil, had a buyer for 100 of these craft, but because of €U tarrifs, the price went from £50k a pop, to £100k each.

wtf?

jimmy b - 01 Jun 2016 10:30 - 2602 of 12628

She's very good and asks the right questions ,i think by the way she interviewed Osbourne she is a Brexiter .

Claret Dragon - 01 Jun 2016 10:50 - 2603 of 12628

Somethıng about Laura.

cynic - 01 Jun 2016 10:56 - 2604 of 12628

chuckle
too subtle for these guys

Haystack - 01 Jun 2016 12:18 - 2605 of 12628

If the referendum votes exit then out parliament have to vote on it. It should be no problem, but what would happen if there were just a few thousand in favour of leaving the EU. Would parliament vote against or maybe call another referendum for the autumn.

cynic - 01 Jun 2016 12:20 - 2606 of 12628

if it's a close call for out, it will leave a loophole for perhaps some proper concessions and more from the plutocrats

MaxK - 01 Jun 2016 12:35 - 2607 of 12628

If there is ONE vote over the winning line for remain, it will be declared a famous victory, and full steam ahead for the projekt.

If there is one vote over for the leave said, it will be declared invalid, vote again.


Altho it probably wont come to that, they already have the template to deal with awkward votes, and I'm sure dave has a few excuses tucked up his sleeve should there be an unavoidable upset.

jimmy b - 01 Jun 2016 12:58 - 2608 of 12628

Woops Remainers getting worried are we ?

grannyboy - 01 Jun 2016 13:24 - 2609 of 12628

That BBC program last night WAS biased in favour of the EU, and those
who think otherwise should watch it again!

As to "She's very good and asks the right questions, i think by the way
she interviewed Osborne she is a Brexiter"

Working for the BBC requires you to be a left wing bleeding heart liberal,
and ex guardian journalist, and a european federalist...

Sorry to pop some's bubble..

jimmy b - 01 Jun 2016 13:54 - 2610 of 12628

Your absolutely wrong granny,i think you need to watch it again . It was the only non biased BBC programme yet.

Haystack - 01 Jun 2016 13:57 - 2611 of 12628

The comments regarding the BBC being left wing are amusing bearing in mind that left wingers think the BBC is extremely right wing. (or should I say left whingers).

MaxK - 01 Jun 2016 14:15 - 2612 of 12628


One glance at the EU's dismal trade policy simply destroys the economic argument for Remain

By
Rishi Sunak

1 June 2016 • 12:54pm



The Government doesn't realise that businesses don't need the EU to prosper Credit: RUI VIEIRA


In July 2011, to the clink of Belgian beer glasses, the European Commission toasted a momentous day. 54 years after its founding members gave up the power to negotiate their own trade deals, the EU’s Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with South Korea had come into force; its first ever trade deal with a major developed economy.

The fact that South Korea’s economy is only half the size of Britain’s, that it had taken the EU five years longer to sign the deal than Switzerland, and that – after half a century – the EU still does not have a free trade deal in place with a single top 10 economy was, no doubt, sensibly ignored.

As pundits begin to talk sagely about the Remain campaign having "won the economic argument", it’s worth taking a moment to remember just how dismal the EU’s record of international trade has been.

I’m the son of Indian immigrants and spent my business career working abroad, investing in companies from Silicon Valley to Bangalore. It’s an experience that for me crystallised what EU’s own figures predict: a decade from now, 90 per cent of global demand will be generated from outside Europe.

The scales of the global economy are tipping eastward and, as they do so, the EU’s trade failings are taking an increasingly heavy toll on the UK. The reason for that is this is that Europe’s major economies are primarily focused on the European market. Britain, meanwhile – the only major EU economy that exports more outside the EU than within it – is traditionally far more outward looking, with EU exports accounting for just 13 per cent of our GDP and falling.

The result is that our country’s trade policy is now run by an organisation with fundamentally different trade priorities to our own. For Britain that means too few trade deals, too slowly, with mismatched partners.


More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/01/one-glance-at-the-eus-dismal-trade-policy-simply-destroys-the-ec/

grannyboy - 01 Jun 2016 15:18 - 2613 of 12628

The lefties only say that because they want to see more lefty bias
from the BBC.

Someone needs to checkout how many EX guardian journalist work for the bbc.

Haystack - 01 Jun 2016 16:18 - 2614 of 12628

Latest YouGov / The Times EU referendum voting intention: Remain 41%, Leave 41%, Don't know 13%.

A new YouGov poll for the Times shows the EU referendum campaign is still tied.

jimmy b - 01 Jun 2016 17:27 - 2615 of 12628

granny i agree with you it's just that last nights programme was fairly neutral and i don't think Laura is a lefty , nice ring to it that.

Dil - 02 Jun 2016 10:35 - 2616 of 12628

England out of the EURO's on June 20th and UK out of Europe June 23rd , now that's got a nice ring about it.

jimmy b - 02 Jun 2016 10:43 - 2617 of 12628

I'll settle for that and i'm English !

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2016 13:33 - 2618 of 12628

Corbyn made a sensible speech today.

Boris should apply to Billy Smart's Circus for a ring assistant's job.

He behaves more and more like a failed clown.

2517GEORGE - 02 Jun 2016 13:39 - 2619 of 12628

''Corbyn made a sensible speech today.'' Law of averages says he had to make one at some stage, don't hold your breath waiting for the next one.
2517

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2016 14:34 - 2620 of 12628

At least he thinks before he speaks, rather than trotting out the old mantras learnt at the bar or Party Central Office.

Again, after the drubbing he has had from the right winged press and con artists' party, he can remain content and just observe the Cons artists imploding on themselves.

Why should he interfere?

What a party of malcontents UKippers and the Cons are, with more heads and tails than Medusa.


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