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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 01 Jun 2016 13:54 - 2610 of 12628

Your absolutely wrong granny,i think you need to watch it again . It was the only non biased BBC programme yet.

Haystack - 01 Jun 2016 13:57 - 2611 of 12628

The comments regarding the BBC being left wing are amusing bearing in mind that left wingers think the BBC is extremely right wing. (or should I say left whingers).

MaxK - 01 Jun 2016 14:15 - 2612 of 12628


One glance at the EU's dismal trade policy simply destroys the economic argument for Remain

By
Rishi Sunak

1 June 2016 • 12:54pm



The Government doesn't realise that businesses don't need the EU to prosper Credit: RUI VIEIRA


In July 2011, to the clink of Belgian beer glasses, the European Commission toasted a momentous day. 54 years after its founding members gave up the power to negotiate their own trade deals, the EU’s Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with South Korea had come into force; its first ever trade deal with a major developed economy.

The fact that South Korea’s economy is only half the size of Britain’s, that it had taken the EU five years longer to sign the deal than Switzerland, and that – after half a century – the EU still does not have a free trade deal in place with a single top 10 economy was, no doubt, sensibly ignored.

As pundits begin to talk sagely about the Remain campaign having "won the economic argument", it’s worth taking a moment to remember just how dismal the EU’s record of international trade has been.

I’m the son of Indian immigrants and spent my business career working abroad, investing in companies from Silicon Valley to Bangalore. It’s an experience that for me crystallised what EU’s own figures predict: a decade from now, 90 per cent of global demand will be generated from outside Europe.

The scales of the global economy are tipping eastward and, as they do so, the EU’s trade failings are taking an increasingly heavy toll on the UK. The reason for that is this is that Europe’s major economies are primarily focused on the European market. Britain, meanwhile – the only major EU economy that exports more outside the EU than within it – is traditionally far more outward looking, with EU exports accounting for just 13 per cent of our GDP and falling.

The result is that our country’s trade policy is now run by an organisation with fundamentally different trade priorities to our own. For Britain that means too few trade deals, too slowly, with mismatched partners.


More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/01/one-glance-at-the-eus-dismal-trade-policy-simply-destroys-the-ec/

grannyboy - 01 Jun 2016 15:18 - 2613 of 12628

The lefties only say that because they want to see more lefty bias
from the BBC.

Someone needs to checkout how many EX guardian journalist work for the bbc.

Haystack - 01 Jun 2016 16:18 - 2614 of 12628

Latest YouGov / The Times EU referendum voting intention: Remain 41%, Leave 41%, Don't know 13%.

A new YouGov poll for the Times shows the EU referendum campaign is still tied.

jimmy b - 01 Jun 2016 17:27 - 2615 of 12628

granny i agree with you it's just that last nights programme was fairly neutral and i don't think Laura is a lefty , nice ring to it that.

Dil - 02 Jun 2016 10:35 - 2616 of 12628

England out of the EURO's on June 20th and UK out of Europe June 23rd , now that's got a nice ring about it.

jimmy b - 02 Jun 2016 10:43 - 2617 of 12628

I'll settle for that and i'm English !

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2016 13:33 - 2618 of 12628

Corbyn made a sensible speech today.

Boris should apply to Billy Smart's Circus for a ring assistant's job.

He behaves more and more like a failed clown.

2517GEORGE - 02 Jun 2016 13:39 - 2619 of 12628

''Corbyn made a sensible speech today.'' Law of averages says he had to make one at some stage, don't hold your breath waiting for the next one.
2517

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2016 14:34 - 2620 of 12628

At least he thinks before he speaks, rather than trotting out the old mantras learnt at the bar or Party Central Office.

Again, after the drubbing he has had from the right winged press and con artists' party, he can remain content and just observe the Cons artists imploding on themselves.

Why should he interfere?

What a party of malcontents UKippers and the Cons are, with more heads and tails than Medusa.


cynic - 02 Jun 2016 14:48 - 2621 of 12628

corbyn trots out what the unions have instructed him to trot out
assuredly he is no "remainer" as he has stated many times over the years

2517GEORGE - 02 Jun 2016 14:50 - 2622 of 12628

Hypocrite leader of the hypocrite party, and a nasty one at that.
2517

cynic - 02 Jun 2016 15:09 - 2623 of 12628

that's not fair

the majority of the labour party probably supports remain and therefore it behoves corbyn to trot out that message ..... however his lack of enthusiasm for so doing is abundantly clear

it is also a pragmatic view that "in" will win - certainly was until very recently - so to speak in support of "out" would have been suicidal

2517GEORGE - 02 Jun 2016 15:20 - 2624 of 12628

Sorry but it is fair he is a hypocrite and so are many of his party, their response or lack of to the referendum (with the exception of a few), just confirms it. Many were proven to be hypocrites long before the referendum issue.
2517

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2016 16:10 - 2625 of 12628

Possibly the next leader of the hypocrites' party.

(Sorry, the remnants of the tory party.)



Who or what is Lady Cruella campaigning for?

grannyboy - 02 Jun 2016 16:12 - 2626 of 12628

The Labour party have taken the universal route to the referendum,
they've not left it to each individual MP, they've been ordered to campaign
for remain, except for about 10 Labour MP's like Kate Hoey, who just like
corbyn campaigned for years for the UK to leave the EU.

They've let the Labour voting working class down very badly over the
past 'New' Labour government years, with their MASS open doors
immigration antics and betrayal..

There was a trade union leader on the tv earlier slating Labour(corbyn)
for not broaching the matter of immigration and the effects of it on the
British worker..

dreamcatcher - 02 Jun 2016 17:18 - 2627 of 12628

Lets get out and give it a spin. Yes a bit turbulent at first but we will soon recover. OUT, OUT OUT. :-))

Fred1new - 02 Jun 2016 18:10 - 2628 of 12628

Shake it all about.

MaxK - 02 Jun 2016 18:29 - 2629 of 12628


EU referendum: Angela Merkel warns Britain 'you will never get results you want if you leave EU'





3:44PM


Boris Johnson: EU elites have hit the panic button


Commenting on the interventions by EU leaders into the UK's referendum debate, Boris Johnson said: "The EU's elites have hit the panic button.

"The Foreign Office is now desperately wheeling out foreign leaders to threaten the British people with retaliation if they dare to Vote Leave and take back control.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/02/eu-referendum-union-boss-calls-on-jeremy-corbyn-to-be-braver-and/
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