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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 25 Jun 2013 17:45 - 26394 of 81564

i am well aware that i could squelch you, but why should i pander to you?
i am also very well aware, as are most here, that you are incapable of answering simple questions, so like Sir Robin Day, i shall keep repeating same
as much as anything else, it helps highlight that you are nowt but a caricature of Macbeth's "poor player"

Fred1new - 25 Jun 2013 19:03 - 26395 of 81564

Manuel,

If you look you are being repetitious.

I answered your question on numerous occasions in the past and as I don't believe myself to be beholding in anyway to you, Ihave no intentions of satisfying your whims.

What interest me is the show of party allegiance some like Hilarious, you and Hays whole to outdated failing economic ideology.

Condemning others of different opinion as idiots in defence of your own opinions.

I differ in opinion from Rawnsley and Will Hutton and many things, but certainly don't consider them idiots.

Also, don't consider Porky to be an idiot, but think he is mistaken in some of the way he is carrying out his policies, or more precisely the severity and timing of his cuts without real stimulus to the underlying economy.
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But we will see, but I do recall Hilarious's prediction made before the last election, that the con party would sweep into power with a magnificent landslide.





cynic - 25 Jun 2013 19:18 - 26396 of 81564

i recollect even more vividly that you bluster away and post your stream of beano cartoons, but have never ever answered, even obliquely let alone plainly, the very simple question as to which party you think has a better and viable alternative economic policy (model would be asking too much) than the incumbents

the truism that one should listen to what is NOT said identifies loudly and clearly that you cannot even think of any party whom you imagine (not even think or believe) has a viable alternative ..... under the circumstances, i'm afraid there's no alternative than to return to the sobriquet of (fos)fred - that is not remotely suggetsing you may be an idiot but merely an arsehole

Fred1new - 25 Jun 2013 19:52 - 26397 of 81564

Manuel,

As you appreciate the cartoons so much,, I will try and dig some more out for you.

They are sometimes expressive of opinion different to yours and often more insightful.

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Some parties are worse than others, which is worst is difficult to know, but the one you acclaim is pretty bad.

Now, have a little more wine and relax until your bedtime.

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Fred1new - 25 Jun 2013 19:52 - 26398 of 81564

Manuel,

As you appreciate the cartoons so much,, I will try and dig some more out for you.

They are sometimes expressive of opinion different to yours and often more insightful.

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Some parties are worse than others, which is worst is difficult to know, but the one you acclaim is pretty bad.

Now, have a little more wine and relax until your bedtime.

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hilary - 25 Jun 2013 19:57 - 26399 of 81564

Well I certainly recall predicting a Tory landslide over 3 years ago. At the time, it was most definitely on the cards - Cameron was well ahead in the polls, and it should have happened, but it's hardly my fault he's a slimeball who fcuked it up at the most important time when victory was there for the taking.

As far as blindly following the party's policies go, that's nonsense. I've been openly critical on this thread of the government's Help to Buy scheme, and I can't understand why Cameron has insisted in pursuing petty, yet divisive policies such as gay marriage. But, if you want to talk about past predictions, how about your prediction that a coalition government would be great for the country as no game-changing laws would ever get passed? With that in mind, and if that's really what you wished for, why are you now prattling on so much about a lack of firm leadership, indecision and U-turns? What else did you expect under a coalition?

And when it comes to the suggestion that the coalition's economic strategy is outdated and failing, that's also nonsense. Nearly every economic indicator points to a recovery being firmly in place and the UK are being praised for sticking to their austerity measures which they implemented far ahead of Europe who are still seriously in the doggy doo doo. And, as you're so keen on pointing out predictions from 2010 and before, I seem to recall predicting that a recovery wouldn't start until after the London Olympics, regardless of who was in power at the time. And if you don't believe that austerity is the answer, would you allow Mrs Bollock Chops to spend more on shopping each week than you give her as an allowance? Because that's what your bum chum, Gordon Clown, was quite happy to do with the country's money on a much larger scale!

And that's the only reason we're in such a mess now!

Stan - 26 Jun 2013 07:16 - 26400 of 81564

Temper temper.. calm down dear.

TANKER - 26 Jun 2013 08:22 - 26401 of 81564

Hilary good post.
but you have forgot to say that the likes of cable @ clegg have fcuked up the torys from doing what is needed .

TANKER - 26 Jun 2013 08:24 - 26402 of 81564

family allowance should be cut to two children .
not to save money but to save the planet
girls are having babies as a way income .

cynic - 26 Jun 2013 08:36 - 26403 of 81564

for once, i pretty much agree with something you write
i'm not sure that 2 children per family is sufficient to maintain a population, but in principle, i certainly agree that child allowance (relatively small beer) should have limits

however, are not many state benefits orientated to "family units", for if so, you now start getting into much trickier territory

TANKER - 26 Jun 2013 08:51 - 26404 of 81564

my view is not to save money but the population is going out of control
and the planet and wild life is being affected .

cynic - 26 Jun 2013 08:55 - 26405 of 81564

for population control, there's nothing like a good, old-fashioned, non-partisan pandemic such as bubonic plague or even spanish flu .... a poor substitute is perhaps a really large scale war

Stan - 26 Jun 2013 08:57 - 26406 of 81564

Cheery post of the week go's to cynic.

cynic - 26 Jun 2013 09:14 - 26407 of 81564

i thought it very constructive :-)

Fred1new - 26 Jun 2013 10:01 - 26408 of 81564

Hilarious,

“ But, if you want to talk about past predictions, how about your prediction that a coalition government would be great for the country as no game-changing laws would ever get passed?”

I have no recollection of saying a coalition would be great for the UK. and doubt that I wrote it, but I am willing to be corrected. I did suggest that a coalition was likely well before it occurred.

As far as a coalition government is concerned, I understand the necessity for such when a country has an external enemy, but see some of the difficulties, when the problems are of an internal economic dissention and “morality” within a “society”.

Do I believe that coalition governments can work? Yes, but with difficulties.

As far the present coalition is concerned, I think that its formation a necessary evil with both tory and Lib/Lab leaders clambering for power within the atmosphere previously created by the media and the obvious political polarisation created during the run up to that election a solution.

I thought the resulting combination was of chalk and cheese, but at least it protected the UK from the ravages of the far right reactionaries.

As far as U-turns are concerned, it appears to me that it shows the immaturity of the leadership who rush out policies without due care and attention to detail. (The action of little girls and boys rushing to paper, or out into the world, with seemingly bright ideas, but later having to ask their mummies and daddies, to pay the bills when the practice of those ideas end in repeated disasters.)

Your analogy of “kitchen sink” economics with the economics of a “society” although having features in common do not hold in practice I am too old to try to explain why.

(Consider floating a company, or bailing out a viable company strapped for cash.)

Or, perhaps, ask the waiter.

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Tinker,

I agree and consider Neo-darwinism the solution.

Also, think there should be a purge of those families with more than two children, as long as I chose the individuals to be slaughtered.

Also, consider involuntary euthanasia a possible solution.

Again, can I pick the clients.


Stan - 26 Jun 2013 10:01 - 26409 of 81564

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02yksnv This really is becoming one of the best descriptions that I have heard to describe such a condition.. but only worth listening for people with an open mind.

3 monkies - 26 Jun 2013 11:51 - 26410 of 81564

Well good morning to you all, I had a heart attack last Wednesday evening around 6.45 p.m. and have been in a critical care unit for 5 days in Southport and got transferred to Broad Green Heart and Chest Hospital in Liverpool On Monday, 4 stents put in so I am an extremely lucky lady, I got told after the procedure that I was so close to having a quadrouple bypass and that only one in three survive such an attack. They are not sure for now the full extent of damage it has done to the heart but return in 4 months for another scan. I for one cannot criticise the NHS, the nursing staff, consultants, Doctors etc., they were absolutely marvellous and I have a life back thanks to them. When one says one never knows the minute - how true. A great shock but I knew something was major and rang 999. Trust you are all well.

goldfinger - 26 Jun 2013 11:54 - 26411 of 81564

So sorry to hear that 3M.

Certainly a shock.

I wish you a speedy recovery.

Get well soon.

Haystack - 26 Jun 2013 12:09 - 26412 of 81564

I hope you are on the way back to rude health.

Was the heart attack as you would have imagined? Did you have any history of such problems? The answers to those questions and others could be useful to some on here.

3 monkies - 26 Jun 2013 12:11 - 26413 of 81564

Thanks GF certainly was a shock, in fact I think I am still in shock - so many changes to be made with my life style and plenty of rest for some time. I am always on the go so that one is going to be hard but it has to be done. Hope you had a good holiday.
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