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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Falcothou - 18 Sep 2008 14:47 - 2683 of 21973

Naturally all those nice US hedge fund managers will be targeting Overseas financial institutions now that they can't target their own.

cynic - 18 Sep 2008 16:33 - 2684 of 21973

Ted ... you're right, though 11750 would have been very nice!

Strawbs - 18 Sep 2008 18:16 - 2685 of 21973

FSA Bans shorting of financials from midnight.

Strawbs.

Stan - 18 Sep 2008 18:22 - 2686 of 21973

Interesting.

Strawbs - 18 Sep 2008 18:44 - 2687 of 21973

Yep Stan. Although I think it'll have far less impact than people think. It might actually make things a great deal worse. Shorters can't create or add to positions, if prices slide now, they have absolutely no reason to buy or close existing positions. If these moves are merely funds liquidating positions with no reciprocal buyers, then prices will continue to slide. Where do the authorities go if this has no impact? I don't have access to CFD's or SB's so it doesn't affect me anyway. Just underlines how seriously bad things have become though.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

required field - 18 Sep 2008 18:49 - 2688 of 21973

Unless these drops stop....my fear is : a meltdown of the markets and we will be all stuffed .....ftse is looking really low...but there comes a time when it might just go over the top (or shall I say bottom).....let's all pray that this does not happen !.

Strawbs - 18 Sep 2008 18:57 - 2689 of 21973

I think the authorities are of the same mind required field. Worrying times. At least now they can't be blamed for a lack of action if it all goes pop.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

cynic - 18 Sep 2008 19:03 - 2690 of 21973

it is indeed very good to see at least some of the serious gov'ts taking action ... inn particular, FSA's ban on shorting finacial stocks must surely be applauded, even if pretty draconian

HARRYCAT - 18 Sep 2008 19:17 - 2691 of 21973

SEC has already done it, so it makes sense for all other markets to do the same, otherwise, as someone has already pointed out, the hedge funds will just go on the prowl for foreign targets.

spitfire43 - 18 Sep 2008 19:31 - 2692 of 21973

About time FSA acted, it seemed that some shorters/hedge funds were hunting in packs looking for the next victim. This needed to be stopped before we had well funded and sound banks going under, which is in no ones interest.

dealerdear - 18 Sep 2008 20:30 - 2693 of 21973

As I said earlier, we were only a few days away from financial meltdown if the government didn't act. I applaude the decision.

Strawbs - a lot of this is confidence. If the sp starts to rise then the shorters will have to cover their positions. I would think the shorts will soon disappear altogether. As you said earlier, we may not now have the massive ups and downs but in these times that is good for the sector.

cynic - 18 Sep 2008 20:41 - 2694 of 21973

Dow has gone through the roof... now +375

dealerdear - 18 Sep 2008 20:46 - 2695 of 21973

Anybody know what a RTC-TYPE solution is? Something to do with the US gov taking over the bad h'sing debt.

Falcothou - 18 Sep 2008 20:57 - 2696 of 21973

That's a 600 point daily range! Phew would not want to be short financials tomorrow, mother of all bear squeezes

cynic - 18 Sep 2008 21:03 - 2697 of 21973

if one can get in quickly, HBOS or even Lloyds could be a very good buy in the morning ....... have left a small and profitable Dow long open, but am disinclined to open a FTSE long at this juncture as already +200 or thereabouts

changed my mind and banked the profit!

Falcothou - 18 Sep 2008 21:08 - 2698 of 21973

I think Lloyds adr's are already 290 cynic probably best jostleing into the auction

cynic - 18 Sep 2008 21:10 - 2699 of 21973

how does that equate to the UK price?

Falcothou - 18 Sep 2008 21:18 - 2700 of 21973

It hit a low of $17 stateside and closed around $22, roughly 3! Asia and futures may also affect, my short term target is 350 might get there on a spike, though I'm sure there's lots more bad news round the corner so will not be holding long term save for a small core perhaps

Strawbs - 18 Sep 2008 21:24 - 2701 of 21973

Hmmm. Might be tempted by some speculative longs tomorrow. The shorts will have to decide, keep the position and lose money, or close the position and not be able to reopen.

Still not convinced the problems are over, but could be a good opportunity at the right price.

In my opinion.

Strawbs

cynic - 19 Sep 2008 07:18 - 2702 of 21973

the charts on page 1 are worth a look, if only to see how far we have fallen through all the supposed support levels and, despite yesterday's surge on Wall Street, with a further jump indicated today, we are still way way below even 25/ and 50 dma
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