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Second ASOS Challenge (2AC)     

EWRobson - 20 Jan 2005 18:13

The first ASOS Challenge was successful in the sense that it taught us a few lessons on investment timing. Only three of 11 shares ended in profit and that included ASOS itself: congratulations to legend for BNH and bosley for SEO. Back to the drawing board for the rest of us (over the year the portfolio would have thrashed any opposition!).

Participants welcome for the second challenge. Primary objective is to find shares that will double in value by 1st July, beating ASC in the process; secondary to be most successful stock-picker in terms of the value of your 20K portfolio. Rules are:

1.Each participant has 20K which can go into 1,2,3 or 4 shares in units of 5K.
2.ASC has 20K and is team yardstick, not in individual portfolios.
3.Duplication between entrants OK with no upper limit for total for one share.
4.Start weekend of 21st Jan. Buy price half way between closing offer and mid.
5.Latest time of entry to be 8 pm on Sunday, 23rd Jan.
6.Challenge to close Friday, 1st July.
7.Entrants can switch up to a total of 10K; av. of Friday close bid and mid.
8.Progress reports to rank shares by performance but also participants (initial only to protect from the ridicule of outsiders!).

Participants welcome. Just post selection here or on ASC thread.

Eric

bosley - 22 May 2005 08:36 - 269 of 315

still there, but i did predict a few weeks ago that seb would come up on the blindside and take it. i don't know why agl is stuck. i thought a few fingers would have come out of their pies by now.

EWRobson - 22 May 2005 13:54 - 270 of 315

Thanks dawsinho. Well done, bos. Where's seb?

EWRobson - 27 May 2005 23:01 - 271 of 315

SECOND ASOS CHALLENGE PORTFOLIO

5 weeks to go! Portfolio slightly down this week. Without SEO it would have been a good week and beaten the small-cap rise of 0.7%.

epic cost___ shares_ price_ value_ gain% wk18
SEO_ 7.19___ 456900_ 26.25_ 119936 265.1 -7.9 BBSSUUW(137)
BGC_ 84.8___ 5900___ 134.0_ 7906__ 58.0_ 2.3_ K(137)
HCEG 63_____ 7935___ 92.5__ 7340__ 46.8_ 12.1 O(151)
CFP_ 0.28___ 3570000 0.4___ 14280_ 42.9_ 0.0_ WY(137)
NLR_ 394.5__ 5080___ 560.5_ 28473_ 42.1_ 10.9 CDMM(137)
AGL_ 128.25_ 3900___ 166.5_ 6494__ 29.8_ 1.2_ B(137)
MOB_ 230.75_ 2165___ 287.5_ 6224__ 24.6_ 28.1 C(151)
DFD_ 136____ 3675___ 168.5_ 6192__ 23.9_ 6.3_ A(151)
ITR_ 7.81___ 110000_ 9.125_ 10038_ 16.8_ 0.0_ HH
CRDA 327.375 1525___ 378.0_ 5765__ 15.5_ 1.1_ P(151)
BAG_ 811____ 615____ 933.5_ 5741__ 15.1_ -0.6 P(151)
DGM_ 18.19__ 110000_ 20.75_ 22825_ 14.1_ 0.2_ BEMS(137)
IDS_ 212.5__ 4700___ 236.0_ 11092_ 11.1_ -0.2 GH(151)
TRT_ 87_____ 5750___ 94.75_ 5448__ 8.9__ -3.6 K(151)
KCOM 62_____ 16100__ 67.0__ 10787_ 8.1__ -1.8 OO(151)
WNN_ 268.5__ 1790___ 273.5_ 4896__ 1.9__ 15.2 C
RSG_ 466.25_ 1070___ 472.5_ 5056__ 1.3__ -0.5 P(151)
BGT_ 130.5__ 7660___ 130.0_ 9958__ -0.4_ 16.6 JJ(137)
GWP_ 120.25_ 8315___ 119.5_ 9936__ -0.6_ -3.6 EE(151)
CEY_ 12.625_ 39600__ 12.25_ 4851__ -3.0_ -3.9 I(137)
PCI_ 10.625_ 47000__ 10.0__ 4700__ -5.9_ 0.0_ T(151)
THUS 15.19__ 32900__ 14.125 4647__ -7.0_ -2.6 O(151)
BPG_ 667.625 1500___ 608.5_ 9128__ -8.9_ 5.2_ DP(151)
MDW_ 9.09___ 247500_ 8.25__ 20419_ -9.2_ -2.9 JSVV(137)
ACE_ 258.25_ 1935___ 233.5_ 4518__ -9.6_ -5.1 G(151)
PDX_ 231____ 2165___ 208.0_ 4503__ -10.0 8.9_ A(177)
TND_ 22.5___ 111000_ 19.75_ 21923_ -12.2 -1.3 LLLLR(173)
PAY_ 255.75_ 1955___ 219.5_ 4291__ -14.2 -3.9 M(173)
GHH_ 191.5__ 2610___ 164.0_ 4280__ -14.4 -2.1 G(151)
CASH 142.25_ 3515___ 121.5_ 4271__ -14.6 5.2_ C(173)
AEN_ 697.5__ 717____ 585.0_ 4194__ -16.1 8.3_ J
SLV_ 11.625_ 40450__ 9.75__ 3944__ -16.1 0.0_ D
AUG_ 256.25_ 3900___ 213.5_ 8327__ -16.7 -12.0 DE(173)
IDOX 11.75__ 42500__ 9.75__ 4144__ -17.0 2.6_ V(173)
CIU_ 162.25_ 3080___ 131.0_ 4035__ -19.3 -6.8 G(173)
BNH_ 125.25_ 15970__ 95.5__ 15251_ -23.8 -2.1 AIRR(173)
ASC_ 78.5___ 25480__ 59.0__ 15033_ -24.8 16.8 ZZZZ(177)
EPD_ 51_____ 9805___ 38.0__ 3726__ -25.5 4.1_ I(173)
PET_ 53.75__ 9300___ 39.0__ 3627__ -27.4 -6.0 R(177)
NML_ 5.31___ 85750__ 3.75__ 3216__ -29.4 0.0_ W
SPS_ 50.5___ 39600__ 35.5__ 14058_ -29.7 -2.7 AIKK(173)
GMC_ 19.125_ 52700__ 13.0__ 6851__ -32.0 -1.9 TW
FTO_ 8.69___ 57500__ 5.75__ 3306__ -33.8 2.2_ Y(173)
BPRG 67.25__ 14870__ 44.0__ 6543__ -34.6 15.0 TT(137)
XEN_ 7.44___ 67200__ 4.375_ 2940__ -41.2 -7.9 V(173)
TAD_ 9.375__ 53300__ 5.125_ 2732__ -45.3 -10.9 Y(177)
KYS_ 15.875_ 63000__ 8.5___ 5355__ -46.5 -5.6 UU(173)
PMD_ 0.875__ 571400_ 0.45__ 2571__ -48.6 -14.3 Y(173)
DES_ 62.25__ 8030___ 30.5__ 2449__ -51.0 -10.3 H(177)
TOTALS___________________ 498219.0 13.2_ -0.9
small-cap 2891.87_ 2820.2________ -2.5_ 1.3

7 shares up over 10% on the week:

MOB (monstermob) - the mob is short for mobiles and they provide a wide range of services, seemingly now around the world, for mobile service providers. Reason for rise, capa, and is there more to go?

ASOS - hooray! appear to be voer their troubles and indications of good trading figures. Natural timing of trading results for quarter would be July but could get indication with announcement of completion of warehouse move in near future. Hotwise figures show double volumes over a year ago. Likely to recover to starting price by 1 July; showing good profit on a healthy stake.

BGT (Bright Things) - had fallen back on no news. Play of the Week this week in Shares. Worth reading but 150p forecast is very low, IMO, as there will be tremendous interest in the launch of Bubble their interactive computer for pre-school children. Will definitely buy for my grandchildren (50 + 17 per game), and have bought back in this week.

WNN: another one for capa. BPRG: pulling back lost ground (your reading jgtudor?). HCEG and NLR are previous success stories recovering lost ground.

B 143.6 K 1.9_ V -19.2
S 133.8 E -1.0 I -20.5
U_ 70.0 D -1.1 R -21.8
W_ 63.3 J -5.8 Y -21.3
M_ 21.2 G -8.1 Z -24.8
O_ 13.9 H -9.8 T -29.7
C_ 12.5 A -9.9
P_ 7.0 L -12.3

bos has pulled away a little from seb as MDW has given back some of its gain. The contest probably rests on AGL v. MDW and, perhaps particularly, on whether the MDW US distributor is announced by 1st July. Is seb a Liverpool supporter by any chance?

markus still holding off yours truly for 3rd place. moneyplus has had a good week.. But the mover of the week is capa with all four holdings making ground. The momentum is with you capa: now 5 more weeks times 14.5% per week would get you to plus 85%...

Another week of blue skies and blus indices, please.

Eric

ethel - 27 May 2005 23:08 - 272 of 315

moneyplus - 28 May 2005 01:03 - 273 of 315

getting better--but not good enough!

bosley - 28 May 2005 11:59 - 274 of 315

not quite biting my nails , yet , but it's getting close......

moneyplus - 28 May 2005 12:27 - 275 of 315

MOB is up because they have appointed Hans Snook as Chairman---former Chief and bigwig of Orange. Great possibilities with this share--I only wish I had some funds to buy!

optomistic - 28 May 2005 16:29 - 276 of 315

capa - 30 May 2005 19:54 - 277 of 315

Sorry haven't been around for the last few weeks but work got in the way.

Moneyplus already highlighted reason for recent rise in MOB and I agree that this should be just the beginning of a good move North.

WNN is in my opinion even better value, AGM statement was just about as bullish as you can get and trading on a significant discount to the sector. Merryl Lynch have been mopping up the shares over the last month or two.

Happy with being 12.5% in profit but can only genuflect to the top 4, outstanding performances.

Keep up the good work Eric

capa

EWRobson - 30 May 2005 21:29 - 278 of 315

capa

Without SEO bos would be up 11% and the other three of us in top 4 would be in negative territory. So plus 12.5% is a good performance and moneyplus and optomistic have performed well. Proves the point that you only need to pick one share and run it if its the right one. Missed you around the palce.

Eric

EWRobson - 07 Jun 2005 13:13 - 279 of 315

Apologies! Did the update last Sunday but presumably didn't complete post correctly. Another of those senior moments! Will cover 2 weeks this weekend.

Eric

EWRobson - 11 Jun 2005 18:29 - 280 of 315

SECOND ASOS CHALLENGE PORTFOLIO

Three weeks to go. Anyone who has invested in the whole portfolio (!!) is up 12%; down 1.1% on the week but that would have been up but for SEO. The individual contest is hotting up to a really tight finish.

epic cost___ shares_ price_ value gain% wk19 wk20
SEO_ 7.19___ 456900_ 24.25 110798 237.3 -1.0 -6.7 BBSSUUW(137)
BGC_ 84.8___ 5900___ 166.75 9838_ 96.6_ 13.4 9.7_ K(137)
DGT_ 0.28___ 3570000 0.45__ 16065 60.7_ 0.0_ 12.5 WY(137)
HCEG 63_____ 7935___ 92.0__ 7300_ 46.0_ -5.4 5.1_ O(151)
NLR_ 394.5__ 5080___ 544.5_ 27661 38.0_ -3.3 0.5_ CDMM(137)
DFD_ 136____ 3675___ 182.5_ 6707_ 34.2_ 0.0_ 8.3_ A(151)
MOB_ 230.75_ 2165___ 306.0_ 6625_ 32.6_ 9.0_ -2.4 C(151)
BAG_ 811____ 615____ 1015.0 6242_ 25.2_ 8.0_ 0.6_ P(151)
DGM_ 18.19__ 110000_ 21.75_ 23925 19.6_ 2.4_ 2.4_ BEMS(137)
CRDA 327.375 1525___ 385.0_ 5871_ 17.6_ 0.2_ 1.7_ P(151)
BGT_ 130.5__ 7660___ 148.5_ 11375 13.8_ -0.4 14.7 JJ(137)
GHH_ 191.5__ 2610___ 209.5_ 5468_ 9.4__ 8.2_ 18.0 G(151)
WNN_ 268.5__ 1790___ 292.5_ 5236_ 8.9__ 2.6_ 4.3_ C
AGL_ 128.25_ 3900___ 139.5_ 5441_ 8.8__ -6.0 -10.9 B(137)
KCOM 62_____ 16100__ 67.0__ 10787 8.1__ 0.7_ -0.7_ OO(151)
MDW_ 9.09___ 247500_ 9.75__ 24131 7.3__ 3.0_ 14.7_ JSVV(137)
ITR_ 7.81___ 110000_ 8.25__ 9075_ 5.6__ -9.6 0.0__ HH
RSG_ 466.25_ 1070___ 487.5_ 5216_ 4.6__ 0.0_ 3.2__ P(151)
IDS_ 212.5__ 4700___ 222.0_ 10434 4.5__ -0.8 -5.1_ GH(151)
THUS 15.19__ 32900__ 15.5__ 5100_ 2.0__ 11.5 -1.6_ O(151)
TRT_ 87_____ 5750___ 86.5__ 4974_ -0.6_ -3.2 -5.7_ K(151)
PAY_ 255.75_ 1955___ 249.5_ 4878_ -2.4_ 8.2_ 5.1__ M(173)
BPG_ 667.625 1500___ 648.0_ 9720_ -2.9_ 3.1_ 3.3__ DP(151)
ACE_ 258.25_ 1935___ 248.0_ 4799_ -4.0_ -2.1 8.5__ G(151)
TND_ 22.5___ 111000_ 20.75_ 23033 -7.8_ -2.5 7.8__ LLLLR(173)
PDX_ 231____ 2165___ 212.5_ 4601_ -8.0_ 5.3_ -3.0_ A(177)
CEY_ 12.625_ 39600__ 11.5__ 4554_ -8.9_ 0.0_ -6.1_ I(137)
PCI_ 10.625_ 47000__ 9.5___ 4465_ -10.6 0.0_ -5.0_ T(151)
CASH 142.25_ 3515___ 121.5_ 4271_ -14.6 -0.8 0.8__ C(173)
SLV_ 11.625_ 40450__ 9.75__ 3944_ -16.1 0.0_ 0.0__ D
AUG_ 256.25_ 3900___ 213.5_ 8327_ -16.7 1.2_ -1.2_ DE(173)
CIU_ 162.25_ 3080___ 131.5_ 4050_ -19.0 0.4_ 0.0__ G(173)
IDOX 11.75__ 42500__ 9.5___ 4038_ -19.1 2.6_ -5.0_ V(173)
NML_ 5.31___ 85750__ 4.0___ 3430_ -24.7 13.3 -5.9_ W
BNH_ 125.25_ 15970__ 93.5__ 14932 -25.3 0.0_ -2.1_ AIRR(173)
FTO_ 8.69___ 57500__ 6.25__ 3594_ -28.1 4.3_ 4.2__ Y(173)
GMC_ 19.125_ 52700__ 13.75_ 7246_ -28.1 -7.7 14.6_ TW
AEN_ 697.5__ 717____ 500.0_ 3585_ -28.3 -6.0 -9.1_ J
EPD_ 51_____ 9805___ 36.0__ 3530_ -29.4 0.0_ -5.3_ I(173)
ASC_ 78.5___ 25480__ 55.0__ 14014 -29.9 0.0_ -6.8_ ZZZZ(177)
SPS_ 50.5___ 39600__ 34.5__ 13662 -31.7 1.4_ -4.2_ AIKK(173)
PET_ 53.75__ 9300___ 36.0__ 3348_ -33.0 -6.4 -1.4_ R(177)
DES_ 62.25__ 8030___ 36.5__ 2931_ -41.4 18.9 0.7__ H(177)
GWP_ 120.25_ 8315___ 70.5__ 5862_ -41.4 1.3_ -41.7 EE(151)
KYS_ 15.875_ 63000__ 9.25__ 5828_ -41.7 2.9_ 5.7__ UU(173)
XEN_ 7.44___ 67200__ 4.125_ 2772_ -44.6 -2.9 -2.9_ V(173)
BPRG 67.25__ 14870__ 35.5__ 5279_ -47.2 -14.2 -6.0 TT(137)
TAD_ 9.375__ 53300__ 4.875_ 2598_ -48.0 2.4_ -7.1_ Y(177)
PMD_ 0.875__ 571400_ 0.2___ 1143_ -77.1 -16.7 -46.7 Y(173)

Totals__________________ 492699.4 12.0_ 0.0__ -1.1
small-cap__ 2891.87_ 2884.1______ -0.3_ 1.4__ 0.8

Six really good performers this week:

GHH up 18% following 8.2% last week. Excellent results for this optical instrument manufacturer with profits up 56%. Like the look of their forward strategy which involves a movement into higher value systems products. (seadog?)

MDW up 14.7% coming back from a bigger rise. Expectation building of appointment of US distrirbutor. (jules, seb or petralva?)

BGT also up 14.7%. sp seems to have come back too far; share play recently in Shares; approaching launch of their exciting Bubble product for pre-school children. I was unfortunately shaken out to cover a fall in SEO. (jules again?)

GMC up 14.6% on closure of a large sales order. Difficult to determine the proper value following a substantial recent acquisition - hope they haven't done a Yoomedia). (jgt and I included this)

DGT (formerly CFP) up 12.5%. No real explanation except that CEO has been building up his holding. The prospective results are well known on the thread because the contracts are very visible for this NOMAD and broker for the AIM market. My expectation, with others, is for a price in the 0.7p to 0.8p range on the first half trading results, probably late July.

BGC up 9.7% following 13.4% last week. (kivver?)

On the downside there have been horrible falls in GWP (41.7%) and PMD (46.7%). GWP have been forced to complete another clinical trial before approval is given by the US authorities; I suspect the price fall is overdue because they are well through an additional clinical trial anyway and there are no significant concerns re their drug.

PMD is a different matter. They ahve been foced into a sale of their US subsiduary to repay a bank loan from Barclays - they have a one month extension to end-June from Barclays. Price fall yesterday suggests the worst.

Any significant moves expected in your shares in the next few weeks? I am very confident indeed in a major boost to ASOS in their July trading statement. sp has actually fallen on a positve report, presumably because the warehouse move has been set for August, rather than May. Big increase in registered users and major increase in hits on website. An excellent time to buy in for as sure a winner as you will find and that includes, you will be surprised to hear me say, SEO. By that I mean that the risks are far lower. The potential return on SEO is still massive but there are definable risks and the share is not for the faint-hearted. ASOS is a one-way street with a terrific formula and a substantial existing market from the high-street retailers to be acquired.

B 125.8 K 8.2_ E -20.0
S 125.4 J 1.6_ R -22.9
W_ 63.0 D -0.6 Y -23.2
U_ 61.5 G -2.3 I -23.9
M_ 23.4 A -7.7 Z -29.9
O_ 15.9 L -7.9 T -36.4
C_ 15.2 V -12.3
P_ 10.9 H -13.9

Well, bos remains ahead by the smallest of margins. Where is seb? - anyone met him on a thread anywhere? Does he know that bos has offered a prize for the winner, assuming it to be himself? lol! Its basically MDW against AGL: a riser against a faller, though without known cause other than no news. My money is on MDW with a US deal likely soon.

Yours truly edged into third with only one SEO portion on the back of GMC and DGT with KYS not helping markus at all. The next 6 in the list are all making progress so there is much honour to be played for. Doubt whether we will make it to Shares but I suspect we played a part in stimulating their Champion Investor competition.

Eric

bosley - 12 Jun 2005 11:12 - 281 of 315

ooooooooooooo it's neck and neck!!!! i have no idea about why agl has fallen especialy when there has been some good news flow recently and ,i think, more to come. i suspect it's a bit of a fake fall and that agl will climb again soon. wether it will happen in time to keep seb behind me , i don't know. anway, if seb does win , i will buy him a drink in donny! great work , eric, and i am pretty sure mam "borrowed" your idea. what a pity the prizes arn't the same. i would have been well up by now!!!!

Kivver - 12 Jun 2005 16:39 - 282 of 315

bgc - varisolve expected to be allowed to be trialed in the US very soon. Announcement could come this week. If it fails, big fall to come!

snakey - 12 Jun 2005 22:54 - 283 of 315

Eric, I hear what you say about PMD, but I really do believe they are going to crawl out of this hole. Their Programme Master company is the best money earner of all and (god forbid, it`s part of their sell off !! ) then I`m sure they have enough credibility etc to remain in the market. I know it seems iffy, but I am going in for another million this week and if this comes good I`ll take you, PTH, OG and Stockdog to Ireland for a long weekend`s golf. We`ll have to have a 3 and a 2 ball though, but we can mix it up over 4 games !!!!

ptholden - 12 Jun 2005 23:03 - 284 of 315

Thanks snakey, I don't even know who PMD are, but I'll gladly accept the trip. Now where is that research button?

pth

snakey - 12 Jun 2005 23:10 - 285 of 315

Eric, PMD are Profile Media and they were the first subject of your `downsiders` on 11th June. I`m not bein` smart, just to let you review their problems.

SEADOG - 13 Jun 2005 08:43 - 286 of 315

Eric,
As I said my three were picked solely on their 12 month trend line. Have read a little about GHH and they are leadrers in a small niche market, and are doing well but I don't hold any !!! SD

EWRobson - 15 Jun 2005 22:28 - 287 of 315

snakey: Great golfing offer! Hope it comes good. By the way, it was pth who queried who PMD are. I did research them before making the content so was aware of the Barclays Bank threat and the proposed sell-off action, which I hope is not the crown jewels. Monday's recovery suggests positive developments - if the odds are better thane ven on recovery then the upside is certainly larger than the downside (even though that ends in zilch!).

Eric

snakey - 17 Jun 2005 11:33 - 288 of 315

pth,
PMD have got rid of the millstone today and am expecting reasonable increase up to, and beyond, results at end of this month. would expect a positive statement from them as their finances should look a little healthier now.
hope you got some and hope my confidence proves correct !!
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