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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:14 - 2707 of 21973

Watch out for the possible LSE market Freeze due to volume..with trading suspended for the rest of the day. With people unable to sell at their paper profit!

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 08:15 - 2708 of 21973

There are some seriously wierd looking prices around this morning on some of these banks. I'd love to look at a level 2 screen and see how much of it's genuine and how much is price manipulation....

Maybe someone with level 2 access could comment....

Strawbs.

IanT(MoneyAM) - 19 Sep 2008 08:17 - 2709 of 21973

strawbs,

a lot of them remained in auction after the open.

Ian

Falcothou - 19 Sep 2008 08:18 - 2710 of 21973

I managed to buy hbos at 195 in auction somehow now sold ! sold some lloyds at 375 but keeps freezing so can't ditch last lot very strange.

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 08:20 - 2711 of 21973

Thanks Ian,

Makes sense.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 08:20 - 2712 of 21973

selftrade crashed again!

stroreysj - 19 Sep 2008 08:21 - 2713 of 21973

this is setting itself for some one mighty crash. I would rather be a sleeping bear than a mindless stampeding bull trying to catch up with a run away train. I have enough interest in the market that might do ok from this but im not commiting any new money as companies cannot justify 80% increases such as BB. overnight

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 08:27 - 2714 of 21973

i want to sell into this but have no chance. grrr

stroreysj - 19 Sep 2008 08:28 - 2715 of 21973

actually nice to see the mkt makers are up to their old tricks and chopping some of these quotes off at the knees from their earlier highs and massive spreads. The tricks never chance as there is always an endless line of sheep to be slaughtered

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 08:31 - 2716 of 21973

If I wasn't so cynical.....

I'd have to say it's lucky this is happening on witching day....

Oh. Hold on. I am cynical!

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:33 - 2717 of 21973

If it's any consolation DD even doing a trade on Barclays was slow..must be general higher volume today slowing platforms down.

stroreysj - 19 Sep 2008 08:35 - 2718 of 21973

its annoying thats it wasn't done on sunday for a change, as clearly they don't want to be predictable. Was planning to get in big on Friday night. But feeling the same cynicism as strawbs i guess i would be pulling my hair out as the platforms would crash and I couldnt sell like many of you are finding. For once pleased to be a spectator. BB. has dropped 50% from the high I commented on 10 mins ago. Ouch

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 08:38 - 2719 of 21973

little compensation I'm afraid Stan. Lost alot of profit the last 15 mins.

As soon as I can get my money out, Selftrade are sacked.

DFBPBJ - 19 Sep 2008 08:40 - 2720 of 21973

Stan/dealerdear: I've got Barclays and it's not 'slow' it's impossible!

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:42 - 2721 of 21973

I felt the same and did the same as you think now a couple of years back and have never regretted that decision.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 08:42 - 2722 of 21973

I accept not being able to get prices in these mkts for the first couple of mins but not for a system to crash for most of the day.

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 08:44 - 2723 of 21973

I figure most of these wild moves are just more market manipulation. The same manipulation market makers have always used to move prices around when they want to encourage buyers or sellers. As usual the private investor finds it impossible to take part in these moves, either because of slow systems, lack of transparency or access. Maybe the FSA should look at leveling the playing field next.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:44 - 2724 of 21973

Not if you give it time DFBPBJ and persevere.

Stan - 19 Sep 2008 08:47 - 2725 of 21973

Strawbs,
I view this as a time to get any "profitable" positions sold. and nothing else as I believe we are heading further down.

spitfire43 - 19 Sep 2008 08:50 - 2726 of 21973

Same problems on TDW trading platform, unable to trade live but it is accepting limit orders.
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