Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Wasn't that in the heyday of Tory Government mismanagement?

Wasn't there a fellow called Norman and another Walter Mitty figure pursuing their ideology?

Another C+P.

"On the 8th of October 1990, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher entered the pound into the ERM mechanism at DM 2.95 to the pound. Hence, if the exchange rate ever neared the bottom of its permitted range, DM 2.773, the government would be obliged to intervene. With UK inflation at three times the rate of Germany's, interest rates at 15% and the "Lawson Boom" about to bust, the conditions for joining the ERM were not favourable at that time."

YES but the europhile CBI wanted to join the ERM just like they wanted the UK to take up the euro...They are incompetent when it comes to most of their threats and predictions.

Britain's NHS can't survive staying in the European Union

Do you prefer the EU or the NHS? The referendum gives us a chance to keep our national health service alive, safe from open door immigration and TTIP




By Louise Bours MEP, Ukip's health spokesman

10:48AM GMT 21 Mar 2016




Anyone inclined to stay in the EU needs to ask themselves this one simple question. "Do I prefer the EU or the NHS?" because we can’t have both, and I’ll now prove it.


The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership will change our NHS from being about public health to being about private wealth.


It’s not just Ukip that know it, trade unions, health workers, and even a top EU law QC knows it, along with the public who have signed anti-TTIP petitions in their hundreds of thousands.


At its core is a series of rules to protect the investment of American health corporations; you know the ones, they make billions of dollars of profit in a country where it’s easier to get shot than get medical care.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12196908/Britains-NHS-cant-survive-staying-in-the-European-Union.html

LEAVE odds as low as 13/8 but generally 7/4 & 15/8. Three weeks ago they were generally 11/4.

REMAIN odds are steadyish around 4/9 & 2/5
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The problem is that the common market is one big f----p......we all know it.....well there we are DC has given us the opportunity to exit ....frankly I think he's bonkers to have brought this referendum forward...so what to do....?....I'm seriously considering voting to exit...I would feel better with myself......but remain in two minds....

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sajid javid, who is a strong supporter of staying in, hit the nail on the head .......
uk will be stronger "in" in a reformed eu

as i have posted before, the problem is that currently the eu plutocrats have no particular interest in changing anything .... for them, everything is lovely and cosy with their bank accounts growing like japanese knotweed

if uk votes to leave, though i suspect that will not come to pass, then there'll be the most awful mess, but it may well provide the catalyst for a root and branch reform of the whole eu structure and democratic process within it

not that you can trust the express, but herewith, being the headline of a long article published on wednesday......

Now French voters call for FREXIT after Germany face demands for EU referendum

Certainly will be the end If France votes out. Only needs one of the Bigger eu countries to leave. Good so even if we stay in there will be other factors.

You also have Netherlands and the Czech Republic wanting a referendum.

yup - saw that too

as i said b4, brexit could well provide the catalyst for much needed root and branch reform

If the UK votes out. The exit negotiations are going to be critical, ie eu regulations and concessions. Do we have a decent negotiating government that is capable. I am not so sure from recent tests.

The other countries won't get a referendum. It is very unlikely that the stories in the Express are true. No other stories in it are usually true.

Why not ?

Withdrawal_from_the_European_Union

Well this is it....the EU needs a new deal fairer for all !.....everybody is fed up with paying over the odds for everything.....

When the EU have had the chance to offer some meaningful reform, even with the weak negotiations from the snake oil salesman 'Call me Dave' they snubbed the opportunity, believing, and rightly so that 'Dave' wanted to stay in...They will never reform, they'd rather see the whole project fail..

Sajid javid was a euro-sceptic before the 'false' reforms... Then he thought about his career before country(?) and turned tail.........

RF

Not all countries dislike the EU. The recent and poorer countries are net gainers from their deals.

The remain side claim that if the UK voted to leave
then the EU would put trade tariffs on trade deals,
but from Iceland all the way to Turkey no country
outside the eu have any tariffs put on the trade deals..

And another remain side falsehood, when they accuse
the LEAVE side of wanting to have a similar deal with
that of Norway but that Norway have to abide by 70% of EU rules...

That is also false as its only 9%....


If you watch BBC iplayer, the Daily Politics 2/3/16, and the
interview with Mathew Hancock..

Ipsos MORI have released the EU referendum figures from their monthly political monitor. Topline figures are

REMAIN 49%, LEAVE 41%, DK/WNV 10%.