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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 13:40 - 2744 of 21973

Still going up I see. I haven't bought anything, but might be tempted with an XUKS ETF, assuming you can still buy them when things settle down a bit. By removing short sellers and forcing others to close, the market is now effectively pushing on an open door. But be warned, this has also removed the downward brakes, no short covering means no reason to buy in a falling market. If anything nasty comes along now, this biggest rise in history will probably be matched by the biggest plunge too.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 13:44 - 2745 of 21973

Fair point Strawbs.

I've only just come back on and don't recognise most of these prices!

What do we do now though? Is this rise going to continue or will we have profit taking Monday?

Your thoughts would be appreciated cause I haven't a damn clue.

Greyhound - 19 Sep 2008 13:51 - 2746 of 21973

US pointing a fair bit higher now and looking at the Yen carry trade, looking good for further gains.

2517GEORGE - 19 Sep 2008 13:54 - 2747 of 21973

dealerdeal I reckon some serious profit taking will occur in the last hour or so today, aimo of course.
2517

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 13:56 - 2748 of 21973

Don't know either. Could go on for days, weeks, maybe even months, or go pop on Monday and open down 500 points. I've no doubt this will get the news headlines as I'm sure it was designed to do. My fear is people will see this as a new way to make money and jump in with both feet, then get burned as the shorters surely were today. They've taken the brakes off the car now, and with less weight it'll certainly move faster up the hill, the only problem is, what happens when it reaches the top!

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 14:02 - 2749 of 21973

thanks all.

I'm sitting on a couple of good profits but not sure now whether to sell and rebuy if a small drop, to sell and leave alone or let it run.


Decisions.

Greyhound - 19 Sep 2008 14:02 - 2750 of 21973

the volume and volatility in late trading will be even more extreme as it's quadruple witching today...

Global Nomad - 19 Sep 2008 14:13 - 2751 of 21973

sold out too early today, having been unable to trade this morning jumped as soon as I could ( on iweb) when the ftse was up 6% not expecting too much more and also thinking it would pull back. so now sitting without anything and wishing iweb hadn't let me trade for much longer into the day - no pull back and no idea where this is going...

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 14:20 - 2752 of 21973

Likewise. don't be too hard on yourself because this is impossible to judge

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 14:23 - 2753 of 21973

DealerDear,

Thinking about it logically I would probably hold long positions until Monday at least. The US will no doubt go through the same rocket fuelled rise the FTSE has been through, and come Monday (after weekend news) I've no doubt the "make money quick" brigade will plough in and push prices up even further. Unless some bad news comes out over the weekend, I suspect the current Euphoria will last for some days yet. No guarantees though, but that would be my guess.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 14:27 - 2754 of 21973

I suspect you're right Strawbs. I've got that itchy trigger feeling in my fingers cause i am desperate to sell but it is usually a sign I'm getting out too quick.

The alternative is to lock in the profit then buy back in but then you are a sitting duck if the market falls.

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 14:30 - 2755 of 21973

A profits a profit. Depends how greedy you want to be I guess. ;-)

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 14:36 - 2756 of 21973

true. I haven't had lunch so I'm feeling very greedy!

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 14:51 - 2757 of 21973

price went up so decided to sell one but although a massive company it is over market size and they can't do it on the phone either.

Crazy times!

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 14:59 - 2758 of 21973

I bet they were happy to let people buy this morning..... just don't want them selling any back this afternoon.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 15:03 - 2759 of 21973

I can't even buy 50 = 200 of them!

Strawbs - 19 Sep 2008 15:07 - 2760 of 21973

Strange. Can't buy, can't sell. What kind of market is that.... LOL :-)

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 15:13 - 2761 of 21973

just tried to buy 10 TW. without success!

Christ!

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 15:16 - 2762 of 21973

Right we're back in business

let it roll ..

dealerdear - 19 Sep 2008 15:58 - 2763 of 21973

Ah I see. Now they've all made their money they're going to allow us plebs to trade.

Kind of them to think of us inadequates at this difficult time for them.

let's hope they don't suffocate in the money they're all rolling in ...

;-)
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