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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 19 Jul 2013 12:52 - 27467 of 81564

Bedroom Tax’ Puts Added Burden On Disabled People

Jul16th
20133 Comments Written by wns_admin


This article titled “‘Bedroom tax’ puts added burden on disabled people” was written by Frances Ryan, for The Guardian on Tuesday 16th July 2013 15.00 UTC

Nine in 10 disabled people are being forced to cut back on food or paying household bills after being refused emergency housing payments to help them pay the “bedroom tax”, research has found.

The report by the disability charity Papworth Trust shows that almost one in three disabled applicants are being rejected for discretionary housing payments (DHPs) from the government fund intended to provide assistance to housing benefit claimants who are unable to pay a shortfall in their rent.

Almost two-thirds of people affected by the loss of housing benefit on rooms deemed to be “spare” are disabled. DHPs were widely promoted by the government as protecting people with disabilities from the worst effects of its under-occupation charge, which was introduced in April. Yet disabled people are no more likely to be given an emergency housing payment than non-disabled people, the research found, even if they live in adapted properties.

David Martin, strategy director at the Papworth Trust, says: “The government asked councils to prioritise people with disabilities and long-term health conditions when deciding who should get emergency payments. This simply isn’t happening.”

Short-term help

Paul and Sue Rutherford had hoped to be awarded a DHP at least for short-term help in making up the £13.50 a week they are losing for having a third bedroom. Though disabled themselves – Paul has a lung condition while Sue has chronic depression – they are full-time carers to their grandson. Warren, 13, has a rare chromosome disorder. He is unable to walk or talk, cannot feed himself, and is doubly incontinent. Their house in west Wales is purpose-built for his needs, with ceiling hoists, wide doorways, a wet room and a third bedroom that allows a carer to stay at weekends when Paul and Sue need respite. Last month, however, the family were rejected for a DHP because the county council judged they had excess income of £99 a week.

“I wish [that were true],” says Paul. “Pembrokeshire county council has included at least the majority of Warren’s [disability living allowance, DLA] care component [in that calculation].”

Martin explains: “When calculating people’s income, councils are including DLA to help them sift the sheer volume of deserving applications for these emergency payments.” However, he says this goes against the advice of the work and pensions minister, Steve Webb, who has told councils to “disregard income from disability-related benefits, as they are intended to be used to help pay for the extra costs of disability“.

Richard Hawkes, chief executive of the disability charity Scope, says the majority of people affected by the bedroom tax are disabled. “The government has repeatedly referred to a discretionary fund to support those hit by this cut. But we know that this money is not getting to disabled people,” he says.

The consequences of this failure need to be considered in light of wider financial pressures on disabled people, says Hawkes. “The fact is that, in 2013, disabled people are struggling to make ends meet. Life costs more if you’re disabled, but living costs are spiralling, income is flatlining [and disabled people] are also facing huge cuts to support that they need.”

The Department for Work and Pensions says reform of housing benefit in the social sector is essential, and that it is monitoring the changes closely. “We are giving local authorities £150m discretionary housing payment funding this year to support vulnerable people, including £25m to help people who live in accommodation that has been adapted for their disabilities,” a DWP spokesman says. “Disability benefits are disregarded when calculating housing benefit entitlement, and where that income is clearly earmarked for care and mobility costs local authorities should disregard it in DHP applications.”

David Orr, chief executive of the National Housing Federation, describes the bedroom tax as “an unfair, unworkable policy that should be repealed”. He says: “How can we ask vulnerable and disabled people to eat or drink less, heat their home less or cut back on medical expenses? The government says discretionary housing payments will protect them, but the Papworth Trust findings make it clear that this temporary measure isn’t even a short-term solution.”

Pembrokeshire county council says it has received “a significant number of applications” for DHPs and that every one is considered on its merits. A council spokeswoman says: “In cases where the customer or a member of their household is confined to a wheelchair and resides in a property that is purpose-built or specifically adapted to meet the needs of their disability … the council will only reject an application for a DHP when it appears that the customer has an excess of income over expenditure and is therefore able to meet the rent shortfall. At the customer’s request we will review, with them, their income and expenditure to ensure the figures submitted to us are accurate.”


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goldfinger - 19 Jul 2013 12:53 - 27468 of 81564

Nasty Nasty crooked TORY government.

goldfinger - 19 Jul 2013 12:55 - 27469 of 81564

GO ON FRED KEEP ASKING THE QUESTION UNTIL HE ANSWERS...........

Haystack - 19 Jul 2013 12:56 - 27470 of 81564

There is no such thing as the 'bedroom tax', which is why it is shown in quotes in the article above. It is a sensible system to cut housing benefits for people with housing that is too big for them. It is also a very popular policy.

Haystack - 19 Jul 2013 12:57 - 27471 of 81564

I see Cameron and Boris are both at the cricket. It looks like being a good game.

Fred1new - 19 Jul 2013 13:01 - 27472 of 81564

Well it may inform about why you support the actions of Cameron's U-turn on reducing advertising of cigarettes possibly on the advice of his mat Crosby.

Condemned by the Medical profession, but welcomed by the undertakers.

It stinks.

Fred1new - 19 Jul 2013 13:07 - 27473 of 81564

Lazy b------ds.

They should be working to get the country out of the mess they are creating.

I hope they paid for the admissions.

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Mind Cameron is claiming the financial success as a con party success.

He is a brazen liar and poser.

"It would be rude to call the benefit numbers flakey. But most economists would say they were deeply speculative, at best.

The point is not that the Games didn't bring economic benefits - it would be hard for something that cost roughly £9bn not to have any economic benefits.





Haystack - 19 Jul 2013 13:13 - 27474 of 81564

Nice to see Cameron and Boris having a well earned day off from their hard work.

goldfinger - 19 Jul 2013 13:51 - 27475 of 81564

Well done Fred keep the presure on Haystacks.

We want the liar to come clean.

Fred1new - 19 Jul 2013 13:54 - 27476 of 81564

The sooner they are permanently unemployed and living on a wasters supplement the better.

skinny - 19 Jul 2013 13:57 - 27477 of 81564

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Shortie - 19 Jul 2013 14:30 - 27478 of 81564

I was thinking!!!

Haystack - 19 Jul 2013 14:35 - 27479 of 81564

I am confused. Is that Fred or goldfinger? My guess is that it is goldfinger as he comes across as looking like that.

cynic - 19 Jul 2013 15:07 - 27480 of 81564

hey fred - ukip shedding seats like confetti ..... oz 91/6!

skinny - 19 Jul 2013 15:10 - 27481 of 81564

Yes shame about the aussies! :-)

I thought I could hear Mr Burns above saying "answer the question!!"

Haystack - 19 Jul 2013 15:10 - 27482 of 81564

UKIP won't get ANY seats in an election. By then they will be seen as the crazy party. The Libs are also known as the silly party and Lab is becoming the VERY silly party.

Shortie - 19 Jul 2013 15:36 - 27483 of 81564

Most people I know will vote UKIP, Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dem leaders can't be trusted as goes to say the same for the parties. Unless theres a major shakeup UKIP I believe will do well.

cynic - 19 Jul 2013 15:59 - 27484 of 81564

shortie - there's a sort-of in-joke between fred and myself re test match result and ukip seats

on a slightly more serious note, I would not be surprised if ukip pick up a reasonable number of votes, though it really is far too far ahead to make an educated call ...... however i doubt they will even pick up 5 seats, and quite possibly, none at all

Haystack - 19 Jul 2013 17:07 - 27485 of 81564

Even with quite a few votes UKIP will not get MPs. I have seen these protest parties before and they come to nothing. UKIP's polling figures are falling now and this is not even an election. People tend to revert to their traditional voting patterns.

Seymour Clearly - 19 Jul 2013 17:29 - 27486 of 81564

Just seen this on Twitter:

"What's that you say, Skippy? The real Australian cricket team are stuck down an abandoned mineshaft?"
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