cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
spitfire43
- 20 Sep 2008 10:40
- 2769 of 21973
How is this for foresight, I have pasted a extract from David Dreman who writes in Forbes magazine and is a well known Contrarian investors. Article written on 17th July. See below...........
(The government is under intense pressure to avoid additional bailouts like the one of Bear Stearns (nyse: BSC - news - people ), even if it has effectively guaranteed that it will keep Fannie Mae (nyse: FNM - news - people ) and Freddie Mac (nyse: FRE - news - people ) afloat. But benign neglect will not do. A run on an investment bank such as Lehman Brothers (nyse: LEH - news - people ) could lead to panic, as trillions of dollars in derivatives guaranteed by investment bankers, banks and hedge funds threatened to collapse. A single big investment bank's default might make its competitors seize up too, since nobody can unravel who owes what to whom.)
I have been following his comments, and will be watching him closely for further insight.
Toya
- 22 Sep 2008 06:54
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I've heard a vague rumour that the US government is putting some sort of 'protection' around Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley - in which case markets would be expected to surge again today. This is only a vague thing I've heard on the radio; if anyone has any details please let us know - thanks!
Global Nomad
- 22 Sep 2008 08:04
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from the bbc
The last two major investment banks in the US have changed their status to become bank holding companies, allowing them to take deposits from investors.
The changes should enable Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to raise more funds by opening commercial banks.
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 08:34
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full story can be found on cnnfn.com, but it really is far too long to post ...... headline is
Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to face more oversight from the Federal Reserve. Change provides more funding and opens door to more mergers.
Toya
- 22 Sep 2008 08:47
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Thanks Cynic and Global Nomad
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 08:54
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why are you now at the office this morning?
confess i am still finishing my coffe at home before strolling to the (pretend) work place!
Toya
- 22 Sep 2008 09:03
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I'm avoiding the office Cynic - nice trip planned to Oxford today!
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 09:12
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did not realise that was today ..... was going to ask you ...... good luck!
HARRYCAT
- 22 Sep 2008 13:47
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All over the place this morning (DOW). Was -77, then -40, then -70 & now -14.
Your SOLA short might be a bit short lived Cynic.
Hedge funds pulling out of commodities are tipped to give this sector a bit of a boost over the next month, otherwise sentiment still in favour of inflation & recession.
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 13:58
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don't ask for long life, or at least not for my investments ..... a bit of instant gratification will suffice at my age!
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 14:28
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following is clearly why NY is looking chirpier, though i am surprised it is felt to be that exciting .....
Japanese financial services firm Mitsubishi UFJ unveils plan to acquire a 10%-20% stake in Morgan Stanley. More soon.
HARRYCAT
- 22 Sep 2008 14:32
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Strange that asian stocks were all up today between 1.5 - 4% on what they considered to be good news in the U.S., yet european stocks are all flat.
As you say, DOW looking very much happier at the open now.
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 14:38
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but falling away a bit again - as i expected it to do ..... am happy to leave my modest Dow short running
HARRYCAT
- 22 Sep 2008 14:41
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Good call. Currently -56. Might be news influenced today then.
EDIT now -106 (14.45 hrs)
HARRYCAT
- 22 Sep 2008 15:07
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Just an opinion, but worth a mention:
"The bottom of the bear market has probably been left behind but it could take until mid-2009 before a bull market takes off, Morgan Stanley says in a European equity strategy note.
'There is a good chance that the low point of this bear market has been reached,' the Wall Street bank says. 'This is not the start of the next bull market, and earnings weakness will be the driving factor again at some point in the next few quarters.'
'The fundamental outlook for some critical elements remains troublesome,' it says, citing an earnings recession, banks' balance sheet repair and falling U.S. house prices.
'The next bull market can only start one, maybe two quarters before these aspects bottom out, which we believe will be at the end of 2009.'
'Now we are in the 'bumping-along-the-bottom-phase' during which fundamentals do not improve but new lows are not made,' Morgan Stanley says.
Reuters Messaging rm://peter.starck.reuters.com@reuters.net
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 15:13
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do you believe the above Harry?
anyway, meanwhile, Dow is hovering around the 11275 support .... which way next?
doubled up at 11255 ..... smart move? .... we shall see
HARRYCAT
- 22 Sep 2008 15:46
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I think they are working on the 5 year cycle, peak to peak.
Anyway, they are an Investmant Bank. Surely they can't get it wrong??? ;o)
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 16:34
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current indication is that shorting Dow again was def a smart move
HARRYCAT
- 22 Sep 2008 17:15
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DOW now down 203 points.
Well done Cynic. I suspect you have made enough money today to buy another case of Chateau something or other!
cynic
- 22 Sep 2008 17:48
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(a) i already have too much fine wine and (b) seriously fine wine - i.e. 1st growths - cost very serious money nowadays!