goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 28 Aug 2013 10:47
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Cynic.
Read the message, rather than shooting from the hip.
The problem with dealing with Assad is that he may be prepared to go down taking all those around him with him. (He presents as Hitler "They have failed me")
From what has been witnessed by his use of force on his "own" people with destruction of towns and cities with apparent concurrence of henchmen, he may be prepared to take with him, many of those who surround him, as well as their surroundings.
If, as has been stated, Israel has been providing "information" and “intelligence” about Syria, to the USA about him and his comrades, he may respond with attacking his old friends.
The intent has been “promised”.
After all he is a dead man walking.
Not a simple problem.
My guess as a result of the present state in the ME that any intervention will fuel the “Arab Spring” with the emergence of more extreme leadership and increasing detestation of the “West”.
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cynic
- 28 Aug 2013 10:50
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if you read the message instead of shooting from the hip, you'ld have seen that i wrote very clearly that i did not know what action i would suggest
Fred1new
- 28 Aug 2013 10:59
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Manuel,
You are being obtuse as your norm.
Try re-reading your posting and then understanding the inference.
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Even for you the M.E. would seem complicated.
cynic
- 28 Aug 2013 11:01
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Hague said it was the first time that chemical warfare has been used anywhere in the world in the 21st century
absolute rubbish ... what about old pal saddam who gassed the kurds? .... i suppose hague is fudging a differentiation between warfare and straight attempted genocide
Haystack
- 28 Aug 2013 11:02
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I thought he gassed them in 1988.
TANKER
- 28 Aug 2013 11:04
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let iran Russia china sort it out . if the uk get involved we will end up with a knife in the back
it is not our problem keep out .or give the voters the choice
cynic
- 28 Aug 2013 11:06
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perhaps you're right hays, though i thought it much more recent, but still a fudge for sure
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having checked, the act indeed took place in 1988 but was not recognised by the courts as an act of genocide until 2010
mnamreh
- 28 Aug 2013 11:06
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TANKER
- 28 Aug 2013 11:17
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The depleted uranium usage in Iraq left lasting effects in babies born with horrifying deformities in Fallujah and Basra. Is this the legacy of the war, and should people be paying more attention to these awful consequences?
Fred1new
- 28 Aug 2013 11:35
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I always wonder why dying in one way is thought by some better than dying in another way.
Why killing with a club,machete, bullet, bomb, "atomic" bomb, long term exposure from depleted "uranium", gas or starvation, etc. is any more criminal than the other.
It is a hypocrisy that the "nuclear" states can hold onto their toys and and "power" appear influential, while another state is condemned for using a different toy.
I believe Saddam was supported by the West and his use of gas against Iran.
TANKER
- 28 Aug 2013 11:38
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was it the REBELS that used the gas . I say yes
TANKER
- 28 Aug 2013 11:40
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the rebels have more to gain from the use of gas than ASSAD so it was the REBELS
for sure terrorists being backed by the USA
TANKER
- 28 Aug 2013 11:47
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looking at the gulf spill .the yanks will never allow a AMERICAN company to take any blame . yet is plain to see that transocean were to blame with poor operators who cut corners to make a quick buck .
I have read all the info on the spill and all 3 companies are to blame
but BP will be the only one charged . the USA is a evil country run by murderers
Fred1new
- 28 Aug 2013 11:48
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Listen to the hypocrisy that Biffen is spouting at the moment about "weapons" and USA's excuse for war.
With the lapdog Cameron running wild on his lead.
Is the USA using "drones", which are killing innocents indiscriminately in the search for "peace".
Does peace mean sovereignty and "standards" of the West?
Many in the ME want to "emulate" those standards.
TANKER
- 28 Aug 2013 11:49
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the operators on the rig were all fast asleep no one at the helm
cynic
- 28 Aug 2013 11:52
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kurds = iran?????
that's a new one
TANKER
- 28 Aug 2013 11:53
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the Syrian rebels used the poison gas . prove me wrong .
sorry not rebels terrorists
cynic
- 28 Aug 2013 11:57
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can rarely be bothered to respond to your verbal diarrhea, but in this instance .....
if the anti-assad crew had used the gas, why would assad's bunch not have welcomed UN inspectors with open arms instead of willfully delaying them?
ahoj
- 28 Aug 2013 11:57
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You are right Cynic, Kurds want independence, they fight against three countries: Iraq, Iran and Turkey.
Muslims cannot live together in Syria. Probably it should split to two parts, Shia and Sonny.
cynic
- 28 Aug 2013 11:59
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is Sonny Moishe's brother :-)
try Sunni