Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I always wonder why dying in one way is thought by some better than dying in another way.

Why killing with a club,machete, bullet, bomb, "atomic" bomb, long term exposure from depleted "uranium", gas or starvation, etc. is any more criminal than the other.

It is a hypocrisy that the "nuclear" states can hold onto their toys and and "power" appear influential, while another state is condemned for using a different toy.

I believe Saddam was supported by the West and his use of gas against Iran.

was it the REBELS that used the gas . I say yes

the rebels have more to gain from the use of gas than ASSAD so it was the REBELS
for sure terrorists being backed by the USA

looking at the gulf spill .the yanks will never allow a AMERICAN company to take any blame . yet is plain to see that transocean were to blame with poor operators who cut corners to make a quick buck .
I have read all the info on the spill and all 3 companies are to blame
but BP will be the only one charged . the USA is a evil country run by murderers

Listen to the hypocrisy that Biffen is spouting at the moment about "weapons" and USA's excuse for war.

With the lapdog Cameron running wild on his lead.

Is the USA using "drones", which are killing innocents indiscriminately in the search for "peace".

Does peace mean sovereignty and "standards" of the West?

Many in the ME want to "emulate" those standards.

the operators on the rig were all fast asleep no one at the helm

kurds = iran?????
that's a new one

the Syrian rebels used the poison gas . prove me wrong .
sorry not rebels terrorists

can rarely be bothered to respond to your verbal diarrhea, but in this instance .....
if the anti-assad crew had used the gas, why would assad's bunch not have welcomed UN inspectors with open arms instead of willfully delaying them?

You are right Cynic, Kurds want independence, they fight against three countries: Iraq, Iran and Turkey.

Muslims cannot live together in Syria. Probably it should split to two parts, Shia and Sonny.

is Sonny Moishe's brother :-)
try Sunni

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Well I for one im fed up with this country policing the world. For gods sake we have a massive debt problem and deficit caused by the bankers.

Lets stop all this crap and look after ourselfs.

People are out sleeping on the street here due to the tories bedroom tax.

Stop the foreign aid stop the bombing abroad and strengthen OUR borders with the money wasted.

The savings would be substantial.

Camoron is another Tony Blair looking for world wide states manship.

Time he grew up and looked after this country. Dont ever forget London burned for 3 nights whilst he was roasting himself in France only a couple of years ago during the riots.

He couldnt sort that what makes him think he can sort something thousands of miles away.

Usual drivel

sticky - don't confuse taking responsibility seriously as behoves a senior (in age) member of UN, NATO and the Security Council with putting troops on the ground

on a personal level, you may not give a shit whether or not assad sprays poison gas around or perhaps you are of the opinion (as i am) that you think some sort of action needs to be taken though you don't know quite what ...... but that is irrelevant to what the country's responsibility is as outlined in the first para

We're already mixed up in two unwinable wars, and Cameroon wants to open a nu one.

Aside from the money (which we haven't got), do todays pols not do history?

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MaxK spot on.

Lets RUN this country not other countries.

Camoron is trying to set up postions for when he loses the next election.

so you can't differentiate between a country's obligations and your own personal views and prejudices? ...... how come i used to think you intelligent :-) ?

GF.

I have some sympathy for your stance and the increasing UK's economical and social problems under the inept CaMORON limit the values of UK support or interventions.

However, because of history and economic future we are involved in the ME.

How we play the present situation will be reviewed for years to come in the M.E. and alter their relationship with us.

"No Man Is An Island

No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

John Donne


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N.

This goes back to a reorganisation and rewriting of the "rules" of the UN.

Dan Dare, did it in 1951.

The UN needs teeth, more honesty and basic "decency".