hewittalan6
- 03 Nov 2005 08:33
Ben Bailey PLC (Housebuilder).
The Mail today said to buy Bellway as they looked very cheap. BBC is cheaper still and is constantly overlooked by analysts.
I am lucky enough to have been in this one for years, and as 2005 started, it hit 500pps. After interims that said it was affected by the slowdown in the market, and the general malaise in the housing market, it has plummeted by 30%. But is this overdone?
The basics make it look very cheap. Trading on a P/e ratio of 3.508 as compared to Bellways ratio of 6.279 it has a similar dividend yield (3.198%). Having read the investors reports it appears the market did overreact, as hidden behind the headline of being affected by the market slowdown was an increasingly large landbank and a move away from their traditional stock of 3 and 4 bed detatched homes and into semis and townhouses, to increase the margin on the land they own.
Further to this, they are specialists in brownfield development, which the government is known to favour and operate solely in the north of England, where the housing market has been less affected than elsewhere.
January sees the year end results posted, and with all the above taken into account, as well as the predicted housing crash not happening, I see a return to the higher sp levels of late 2004 / early 2005. Add into this a 15pps dividend and I see a winner, both short and long term.
Thoughts anyone?
Alan
sutherlh1
- 17 Nov 2005 10:47
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I bought them following your earlier posting and my investigation on this and the sector in general. Looks like it may be one to move in and out off if predictability holds and take some capital as well as good income from it; that is, if it isn't taken over first. Will keep you posted on what I do with BBC.
hewittalan6
- 17 Nov 2005 10:49
- 30 of 138
She moves again!!
SSSHHHHH!
Lets keep it our little secret!!8-)
Alan
partridge
- 17 Nov 2005 19:19
- 31 of 138
Alan - KIE just about keeping up with you!
hewittalan6
- 17 Nov 2005 19:30
- 32 of 138
Partridge,
I think we're due a pause, while you catch up.
Keep the faith.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 18 Nov 2005 16:22
- 33 of 138
Partridge,
Have you caught up yet?
Can we get going again now?
Pleeasseee?
Alan
;-)
partridge
- 19 Nov 2005 16:54
- 34 of 138
KIE comfortably ahead if you look at last 3 months, but you just have the edge on one month (by my crude calculations about 12% against 10%). KIE AGM due shortly and I hope for positive spin to put me ahead before Xmas!
hewittalan6
- 19 Nov 2005 19:31
- 35 of 138
Best of luck to you, partridge. I would be very happy if you made 1000% by xmas, providing I only lose by a short head!!!
Alan
hewittalan6
- 22 Nov 2005 08:07
- 36 of 138
Just had a look at Telford homes.
Good interims this morning, saying that even in the SE house prices haven't crashed as predicted and it is recording another record year.
This company is trading on a P/E of 8.176 as opposed to BBC under 4 and it has 150% gearing.
Still think BBC looks way too cheap, and the run up to the year end will see it rise a good bit further.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 23 Nov 2005 08:59
- 37 of 138
And another one reporting today. Crest Nicholson. Everything looking rosey, sp rising on results and a P/E ratio of 7.849.
In this season of housebuilders reporting, the message seems to be; "Hey guys, it aint as bad as we thought it might be".
Gives me great confidence that as focus turns towards BBC year end (31/12) this will rise in anticipation and again on publication.
Alan
sutherlh1
- 23 Nov 2005 09:16
- 38 of 138
Not a lot of volume on BBC, but I think the MMs will push it up to reflect what else is happening in the sector, which seems pretty rosy as Crest numbers indicate. Hopeful therefore for continuing rise in SP into the BBC year end and with some even modest activity it good jump nicely.
hewittalan6
- 23 Nov 2005 09:29
- 39 of 138
It also appears today that McCarthy & Stone have bought a load of their own shares. I know they aren't quite the type of housebuilder we are talking about here but it is another sign of the entire sector being undervalued. The trick, as always, is to find the most undervalued!! That is why I harp on about the P/E ratio and the divi yield of 15pps.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 28 Nov 2005 08:53
- 40 of 138
As I have written previously, I believe this share to be predictable over 12 months, and the last three years charts are almost a copy of each other in the timing of rises and falls and the angle the chart climbs and drops.
Between end Nov 2003 and Feb 2004 there was a rise of about 30%.
Between end Nov 2004 and Feb 2005 there was a rise of about 30%
I do hope that the predictability continues. That would target holders for a price of about 540pps.
Heres hoping it is as forecastable as it has been for the last few years.
Alan
partridge
- 28 Nov 2005 14:17
- 41 of 138
Alan - thought KIE AGM comments might spur them ahead of BBC. Chairman's statement roughly translates as "things are going stonkingly well" and the shares drop a few pence. Funny old game, but I still expect both to do well over coming months.
hewittalan6
- 28 Nov 2005 14:59
- 42 of 138
Me too mate. Its the results season in this sector and the crash that discounted them all never happened!!
Good results on one player usually trancribe to an entire sector being moved up. Not to be today, but we will have a merry christmas and happy new year with BBC and KIE, I'm sure.
Alan
partridge
- 29 Nov 2005 14:33
- 43 of 138
Alan - Looks like a few people read have the AGM statement for KIE a day late. Quietly confident - but BBC may still get ahead on their trading update due in a couple of weeks.
hewittalan6
- 29 Nov 2005 14:56
- 44 of 138
I love a good natured race!!
Alan
hewittalan6
- 02 Dec 2005 21:32
- 46 of 138
You know you're always welcome, Driver.
My home is your home, my food is your food, my wife is y..., sorry, got a bit carried away and emotional there.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 04 Dec 2005 20:13
- 48 of 138
Got one on my Xmas list, driver. Giving it the once over as we speak (or read, or whatever).
Just noticed the headlines in Saturdays Express are along the lines of "Crash, what crash? The housing market is off again".
Didn't read it fully, but that is the kind of news this sector needs. It won't do it any harm, anyway!!
Alan