Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

es schien eine gute Idee zu der Zeit

Labour are having to come round to mentioning immigration, but they are
putting across the idea that the EU are open to reform, which they're not,
So Labour are just trying to deceive the public once again by making it
appear that they are concerned..WHICH THEY'RE NOT!!

The back slapping and collusion between the pro-eu remainer's in PMQ's,
from both Tory and Labour has been nauseating to behold.

And like i stated a week or so ago, that in my experience something
will turn up and turn the tide to LEAVE, and that's this so called post
budget, with threats of tax rises and less funding for the NHS that
Osborne and Darling have put their names to...

More then 57 Tory MP's have said they will vote against it along with
the Labour party and the other anti austerity parties...

ITS DOOMED EVEN BEFORE THE INKS DRY...AND JUST MORE SCAREMONGERING
FROM THE DECEITFUL ELITE!!!

It is possible that today might have been Cameron's last PMQs. I doubt it, but it is a possibility.

please, please be true

Possibly the weakest PM ever

Not only one of the weakest, but also the most treacherous, deceitful,
lying, and shallow of an individual, along with his busom buddy osborne.

Cameron has been the best leader and PM for years, certainly since Major.

It should be!

And he can take Osbrown with him.

Remain most likely and Cameron would stay till close to 2020. Business as usual from next Friday.

I did think his PMQT 'In speech' was actually extremely strong.

In fact, it made my wife and feel uncomfortable and we laughed about this and then we did ask each other, "Have we actually done the right thing voting 'OUT'?"

Anyhow, we pulled ourselves together and then agreed with each other once again, that we had done the right thing voting 'OUT'.

The main thing that throws people, is the fact that all EU agreements are seemingly non-existent once we vote ourselves 'OUT'. Now this does unsettle people.

But, let's say, think about the following as an example:

National Security:

Currently, we have an EU arrangement to share information with other members.

Cameron says, that won't exist when we leave the EU, so we will be extremely 'insecure and a lot less safe'.

This is actually utter rubbish. Indirectly, he is saying 'we will not share information with old EU partners, nor they with us after we've left'.

Well, why not? Surely it's in everyone's interest to continue doing this 'sharing of security information'? So we would continue with that sharing, wouldn't we? It's common sense to share security information with other countries.

And it's surely a FACT, that we don't need to have EU Membership to be able to share it, do we?

No, we don't. But "learned helplessness" does come to mind where the Remain lot is concerned.
However, remember that while we were allowed to wonder the streets when we were kids, and fend for ourselves, the likes of Cameron and Osbourne had nannies. The habit is as hard to kick as cocaine..I hear.

An unelected EU Commission orders an elected government what to do. Or at least tries. Maybe it should examine its own state of democracy and self entitlement.

Poland will probably ignore a Wednesday deadline to respond to a European Union probe into the state of its democracy, as the head of the ruling Law & Justice party said his country didn’t have to cooperate.
Jaroslaw Kaczynski set the stage for a showdown with the European Commission, which set Wednesday as the last day Poland had to respond to a June 1 assessment telling the country to restore the ability of Poland’s highest court to effectively review or overturn laws. The government probably won’t deliver a response today, spokesman Rafal Bochenek said.
“The EU proceedings are arbitrary and groundless,” Kaczynski, the leader of Law and Justice and the power behind the throne of Prime Minister Beata Szydlo’s government, told reporters in Krakow on Wednesday. “Adhering to them has been a gesture of good will on our part, but we don’t have to do it.”

Hahaha! Haystack(2963), You're either Cameron or one of his cronies to believe
that little gem...

If there'd been anything resembling an opposition, with an ounce of ability,
they'd have tore the snake oil sales limb from limb..

He's made more promises, done more 'U' turns, along with his buddy osborne
then any i can remember.

His negotiating skills are NON existent, and the opposition negotiators laugh at
him for his weaknesses.

ExecLine (2966) "I did think his PMQT 'In Speech' was actually extremely strong"


When you have no opposition to question your claims and you are allowed to
stand there spouting anything that promotes your cause, in a manner
of a snake oil salesman, it dosn't surprise you when you hear of people losing
their savings and valuables to some slick oily con man...

Cameron has been giving Labour a soft ride because they are very keen on Corbyn staying leader. If there was any serious opposition there would e a much more aggressive Conservative party.

i still think "remain" will edge the referendum, but let's suppose it does not
what happens in the two years after?

There are a lot of undecided people at the moment. Will these split according to the rest or will they be mainly one way?

Chaos.

Split in the con party.

People decrying the political leaders for misleading them,

Economic recession.

The pound in your pocket remaining the same value.

Cynics moaning.

8-(