Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dear Dorothy,
My husband is a liar and a cheat. He has cheated on me from the beginning and when I confront him, he denies everything.
What's worse, everyone knows he cheats on me. It's so humiliating.
Also, since he lost his job 14 years ago, he hasn't even looked for a new one.
All he does all day is smoke cigars, cruise around and shoot bull with his buddies and has sex with hookers, while I work so hard to pay our bills.
Since our daughter went away to college and then got married; he doesn't even pretend to like me, and hints that I may be a lesbian.
What should I do?
Signed:
Confused
Dear Confused:
Grow up and dump him.
You don't need him anymore!
Good grief woman, you're running for President of the United States!

Summed up in a cartoon...nice one aldwickk!

I now believe many of the undecided are turning to brexit because of the unbelievable rubbish being spouted by the remain and for no other reason.

If Corbyn ever wants to be remembered for anything cos he will never make PM (be lucky to be leader this time next year) then 2 days before the vote he should say feck it I have still got principles and tell all his fans (both of them ?) to vote out.

Conservative donor withdraws support over David Cameron's 'irresponsible' EU campaign



By Kate McCann, Senior Political Correspondent
12 June 2016 • 10:00pm




One of David Cameron's biggest donors has withdrawn his financial support for the Conservatives and is considering quitting the party over the way the Prime Minister has handled the referendum, the Telegraph can reveal.

Edi Truell, a pensions expert who has donated over £270,000 since 2010, said he will only hand over money if Boris Johnson or Michael Gove take over from Mr Cameron after a Brexit vote.

It came as Priti Patel, a Government minister, accused Mr Cameron of "undermining" the Conservative manifesto by warning that the triple lock on pensions could be at risk if the UK votes to leave.

She said: "I simply think this is just an unrealistic statement, another intervention that is quite frankly there to terrify pensioners in a quite demeaning way."



Mr Truell warned that remaining in the EU would be more damaging to pension funds because of legislation planned by Brussels.

"The much greater risk is remaining within the EU, they've got explicit plans to destroy British pensions," he warned, adding: "All the final salary funds will go bankrupt and their companies will go bankrupt supporting them, that's about 8,000 pension funds in the private sector."



Full story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/conservative-donor-withdraws-support-over-david-camerons-irrespo/

If we do vote out I put it down totally to Dave , thinking he could lie , bully , deceive and take the population to be basically thick and gullible . I knew this fiscal side would be bad for us , as I've said before wait till they stop ISA's and other forms of saving for the British .

Useful comparison.

It could result in the death of a pensioner worrying about a cut in their income.

Fred's cartoon is another reason for Brexit . Neo nazi and Islamic terrorist in the EU

nicked from across the road..



Won’t you join our Common Market?’ said the spider to the fly,
It really is a winner and the cost is not too high,
I know De Gaulle said “Non”, but he hadn’t got a clue,
We want you in, my friends and I, for we have plans for you.
You’ll have to pay a little more than we do, just for now,
As Herr Kohl said, and I agree, we need a new milch cow.
It’s just a continental term believe me, mon ami,
Like “Vive la France” or “Mad Anglais” or even “E.E.C.”
As to the rules, don’t worry friend, there’s really but a few,
You’ll find that we ignore them - but they all apply to you!
Give and share between us, that’s what it’s all about,
You do all the giving, and we all share it out.
It’s very British, is it not, to help a friend in need?
You’ve done it twice in two World Wars, a fact we must concede,
So climb aboard the Market Train, don’t sit there on the side,
Your continental cousins want to take you for a ride.

haystack dislikes cornfields in reply to my note on brexit what an informative reply BB

These remainers just can't see it can they .

They don't want to see it V.

Ft poll of polls now has Brexit on 46% and Remain 44%.
Good news for Brexit. But can they hold it against the Labour big guns coming out campaigning .?

Not over till MaxFear on both sides has been pushed beyond limit.

labour big guns like corbyn?
why do you think he's been totally side-lined?
his lack of leadership and fire in supporting "remain" - in which of course he does not believe - will assuredly have alienated many labour voters and tipped them into the "exit" camp

it is correct that immigration should NOT have become the focal point of the whole campaign, but it is very understandable why it has ..... this has effectively sidelined all the other major issues

unfortunately, no one actually knows what will happen to the uk economy and other attaching issues, but it is all too clear to everyone what open-door immigration is doing

Broon = Big Gun?


LOL !

Do they ever stop Bullsh@tting these people , or are they sworn to it when they get anointed as an MP. Do they know what reality is anymore .

One of the Kinnock clan, the son was asked on the BBC news whether the
fact that ALL of the Kinnock clan has worked for the EU and have received
huge salary's, nothing was said of their pensions of course, but he wouldn't
answer the main question saying it had no influence on his decision on
recommending to remaining....LOFL!!!....

black bird
I think I said I didn't like corn, which I don't. Corn fields I have no feelings about except they can be pretty.

I like Special K myself , with cold milk .I get corns on my little toe gives me a fair bit of gip i can tell you .( is gip a word )

gyp (I think)