Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Or the hand grenade or hands.

Or anything anybody may use against us.

What are people paying for petrol. It is 135.9p here for unleaded.

134.9p is the cheapest I can find here at Sainsburys petrol stations, with double Nectar points.

Haystack - 23 Sep 2013 14:58 - 29806 of 29809

Some of the terrorist in Kenya were men dressed as veiled women to smuggle in grenades, weapons and ammunition. Maybe there is a case for banning the veil here..............

Good point Hays. I believe its already been used to smuggle people out of the country to terrorist training camps.

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So have, lorries, cars, trains and wigs.

Ban them all, I say. Shoot anybody in a mask. That will sort them out!

While it is b. obvious ot is necessary to prevent such "events" and "punish" the instigators and perpetrators of the such actions, perhaps it would be more sensible to look at the root causes at the same time and modify them in a reasonable manner.

That is why NI settled down eventually, although it still has further to go.

Labour lead grows...........

electionista‏@electionista4m
UK - TNS BMRB poll: CON 29%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 14%

10 point lead here.

Just goes to show folk shouldnt believe evertything they read in Tory rags.

root causes of islamic fundamentalism are what exactly?
answers on a postcard please from our resident panel of experts on all aspects of the uk and world economies, world affairs and anything and everything else :-)

Cynic,

You are obviously a man of distinction an of course the World.


Expand your vision and DYOH.



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Having written that, however, I do wonder what world sometimes.

I see Fred made the Daily Mail today, there is a good picture of a clown . Bit cold for a dip today I would of thought. lol

unlike you - and there are several "worse" - i do not profess to be an expert on half if any of the stuff that you proclaim from the rooftops

my view is that there is and was no magic panacea to avoid islamic fundamentalism, or something equally vicious
it happens that islam has always had a history of a significant militant and hardline (fundamental) clique, but this has just been used, usurped and manipulated by other parties to further their own agendas

in even fewer words, this sort of situation was unavoidable in one guise or another

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there were other serious threats instead - e.g. cuba
don't forget side shows like the korean and vietnam wars either, plus of course other little skirmishes in m/e like oman and the israel/arab wars

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Cynic.

If I had the instant solutions to any of the problems I observe I would indeed be a superior being. But at least I look and try to think about what is happening beyond the end of my nose and personal interests.

Many of my comments are observations rather than offering short term immediate solutions, which many appear to like jumping to.

However, even in difficult and often confused situation I have generally realised, that if one tries hard and for long enough, solutions can often be found.
When one has the courage to attempt to negotiate in the "political" scene, dismissing the hypocrisies and ignoring short term political self interest, "accommodations or compromises" are usually to be found.

(Syria, Putin, Obama, Assad may be resolving some of the problems and with Iran being "accepted", or appearing more acceptable, negotiation is possible with some resolution of the hostile air in the ME.. This is preferable to trying to threaten Iran and others into submission. )

That is, “jaw, jaw, rather than war, war”.

Improvements occur, wars can be avoided all of society are capable of maturing.

Fundamental Islam is no worse, or better than the extremes of Radical Christianity, or the extremes of Fundamental Judaism.

The problem is that at the moment, Islam is being seen by many of “the masses”, as a route out of “oppression” and “poverty”.

“Religion is the opiate of the Masses”.

What is necessary is the alleviation of the “oppression” and “poverty”.

Difficult, but not impossible.

It has been done for the majority of the “West”, so it can be done elsewhere.

I think, and hope.

crap!
like i said, islam was latched onto by others with very different agendas, and NOT that it was the root of the problem
other than that, and as i said above, you're spouting absolute crap

ALL religions are started by people with agendas, usually power.

I thought it was “Religion is the opium of the Masses”.

As all the best detective books quote:

Follow the money.


TPTB know who is behind these acts, ie, funding them.

But will do nothing cos it suits their version of the great game.

Haystack

Not all , what about the Quakers