goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 23 Sep 2013 16:57
- 29814 of 81564
Cynic,
You are obviously a man of distinction an of course the World.
Expand your vision and DYOH.
--------
Having written that, however, I do wonder what world sometimes.
dreamcatcher
- 23 Sep 2013 17:07
- 29815 of 81564
I see Fred made the Daily Mail today, there is a good picture of a clown . Bit cold for a dip today I would of thought. lol
cynic
- 23 Sep 2013 17:08
- 29816 of 81564
unlike you - and there are several "worse" - i do not profess to be an expert on half if any of the stuff that you proclaim from the rooftops
my view is that there is and was no magic panacea to avoid islamic fundamentalism, or something equally vicious
it happens that islam has always had a history of a significant militant and hardline (fundamental) clique, but this has just been used, usurped and manipulated by other parties to further their own agendas
in even fewer words, this sort of situation was unavoidable in one guise or another
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2013 18:06
- 29817 of 81564
.
cynic
- 23 Sep 2013 18:10
- 29818 of 81564
there were other serious threats instead - e.g. cuba
don't forget side shows like the korean and vietnam wars either, plus of course other little skirmishes in m/e like oman and the israel/arab wars
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2013 18:20
- 29819 of 81564
.
Fred1new
- 23 Sep 2013 19:19
- 29820 of 81564
Cynic.
If I had the instant solutions to any of the problems I observe I would indeed be a superior being. But at least I look and try to think about what is happening beyond the end of my nose and personal interests.
Many of my comments are observations rather than offering short term immediate solutions, which many appear to like jumping to.
However, even in difficult and often confused situation I have generally realised, that if one tries hard and for long enough, solutions can often be found.
When one has the courage to attempt to negotiate in the "political" scene, dismissing the hypocrisies and ignoring short term political self interest, "accommodations or compromises" are usually to be found.
(Syria, Putin, Obama, Assad may be resolving some of the problems and with Iran being "accepted", or appearing more acceptable, negotiation is possible with some resolution of the hostile air in the ME.. This is preferable to trying to threaten Iran and others into submission. )
That is, “jaw, jaw, rather than war, war”.
Improvements occur, wars can be avoided all of society are capable of maturing.
Fundamental Islam is no worse, or better than the extremes of Radical Christianity, or the extremes of Fundamental Judaism.
The problem is that at the moment, Islam is being seen by many of “the masses”, as a route out of “oppression” and “poverty”.
“Religion is the opiate of the Masses”.
What is necessary is the alleviation of the “oppression” and “poverty”.
Difficult, but not impossible.
It has been done for the majority of the “West”, so it can be done elsewhere.
I think, and hope.
cynic
- 23 Sep 2013 19:56
- 29821 of 81564
crap!
like i said, islam was latched onto by others with very different agendas, and NOT that it was the root of the problem
other than that, and as i said above, you're spouting absolute crap
Haystack
- 23 Sep 2013 20:12
- 29822 of 81564
ALL religions are started by people with agendas, usually power.
aldwickk
- 23 Sep 2013 20:15
- 29823 of 81564
I thought it was “Religion is the opium of the Masses”.
MaxK
- 23 Sep 2013 20:16
- 29824 of 81564
As all the best detective books quote:
Follow the money.
TPTB know who is behind these acts, ie, funding them.
But will do nothing cos it suits their version of the great game.
aldwickk
- 23 Sep 2013 20:20
- 29825 of 81564
Haystack
Not all , what about the Quakers
MaxK
- 23 Sep 2013 20:24
- 29826 of 81564
Buddhists?
aldwickk
- 23 Sep 2013 20:25
- 29827 of 81564
TPTB ? who or what are they
MaxK
- 23 Sep 2013 20:25
- 29828 of 81564
The Powers That Be.
skinny
- 23 Sep 2013 20:41
- 29829 of 81564
With reference to my post 29795, it appears I was mistaken - its was the just the former!
Ed Balls Mocks David Cameron For 'Surprisingly Small' Beach Towel
Ed Balls has shown his political machismo as he subjected Prime Minister David Cameron to withering mockery for not needing much to preserve his modesty while changing on the beach.
Speaking to the Labour Party conference this afternoon, Balls told Labour members of his surprise when his wife, shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper, said Cameron looked "slim" when he was photographed holidaying in Cornwall.
Referring to the photo of the PM papped changing while wearing a Mickey Mouse towel, Balls quipped: "I just thought for a Prime Minister, it was a surprisingly small towel."
A Tory source told HuffPostUK the quip was "puerile and immature", adding: "When that's all Mr Balls has to say, we know it's because he hasn't got any policies and can't be trusted on the economy."
Haystack
- 23 Sep 2013 20:45
- 29830 of 81564
Quakers were a breakaway group of prostetants who went around the country converting people. Their leader said' "tremble at the word of the Lord". Hence they are called the Quakers.
hilary
- 23 Sep 2013 20:48
- 29831 of 81564
When did they get their oats?
Haystack
- 23 Sep 2013 20:54
- 29832 of 81564
Buddhism is not strictly a religion.
Religions like to control their followers by various rules.
Haystack
- 23 Sep 2013 20:57
- 29833 of 81564
Some Quakers were put in prison for blasphemy. I suppose you could call it porridge.