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Bos - AYE - I've had him squelched since soon after he started.

OG - nice post on Bashers - I must say, here and on other "bashed" stocks, I have previously taken comfort from the fact that bashing only really works well with a fundamentally good stock - you go short, then bash it - the SP falls, you buy to cover plus some extra - the stock rises again and you make on the extra on the way upn as well. There is always the expectation that bashers only want to lower the price temporarily. Besides, poor stocks rarely get high enough to be worth bashing down again.

So I take it as a complement to SEO that insiderX2 has seen fit to lavish his attentions on us. BTW I'm thinking if changing my name to upsiderX10bagger.

SD

I fail to see why anyone can see any upside - the Asda news was factored in with the rise to the 13p to 18p range - even though it should have only risen to 13p (with the frightening thing being that the deal is still not on as its been delayed past the initial 60 days for more trials). Terrible rumours about Walmart - totally false and with no fact to back it up - retained the price at 18p - and then solid spin RNSs about installations engineers for the USA have pushed it up to above 20p. So what ? So IF the Asda deal is confirmed - then the price at 13p is ok for a very high forward PE - and should miracles happen and lets pretend Walmart come in too - its safe at 18p - so what does anyone think is going to move this up (apart from pure lies and ramping).

If you were to utilise this Basher argument (even though it is totally false) - lets talk about rampers - why are they trying to convince you the price is going up - they want to help you make money ? They are just being so nice as to help the world make money ? From their argument no one would help point out lies and negative opinions (call that FACT) - without a hidden agenda - then why are they blatently telling rampy lies - surely they would keep this secret and just keep buying every month for themselves - oh - sorry - we have to remember a thread only gets really rampy when the actual news and rumour is factored in.

These rampers work on one principle - BUY ON RUMOUR - SELL ON THE REAL NEWS - so they buy - then start rumours and ramps - then sell - and screw everyone still holding once they have sold theirs for fat profits.

Just to further enhance the difference between ultrasonics and RF, ultrasonics for packaging generally operates in the range of 20KHz to 40KHz and RF comes in at between 27MHz and 31MHz. Ultrasonics requires to "weld" materials together by creating heat at the joint, exactly what SEC are offering to eliminate for foodstuff packaging. Ultrasonics cannot weld at joints that are contaminated with food stuffs so is generally used for bubble packs, encapsulation etc. Ultrasonics cannot seal packs to exclude air, ladies look at your soap capsules, these all have a small pocket of air inside which is impossible to remove when sealing these capsules by traditional methods. RF does not require welding because it vibrates molecules of the adjoining materials to fuse them together. It can do this even through contaminated seal surface and potentially can seal to exclude air. Hopefully all can understand from this that the two technologies are so different they should not be considered as a replacement for each other. Also squelched the unmentionable. Hope everyone's weekend is as sunny as mine.

insiderinside squelched by me too - very handy facililty, just click on his name and then the squelch button and the board is instantly readable again.

bos
I can't believe you STILL hold, sorry I used a basher tactic just then still hold some pcm, in that case it might be a good time to average right down by getting a few rather than waiting 50 years to get back what you paid for them.:)

AYE! From me to insiderinside has just bin squelched.

Hi All

took me a while to squelch him properly but it's now done...AYE

Ruthie

driver, i wouldn't touch pcm with yours!!!!! i look upon my "investments" during the tech boom months as a lesson learned. pcm is the only one still around(although i did get a share certificate last year for ONE share in beaufort, value 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000045p, or something like that!!) (oh, mv sports got taken over by tandem, they offered you one tandem share for every 3 million mv sports shares, or something like that).ahhh ,happy days!!!:) deancroft, thanks for the technical insight. oranges and apples. its was sunny this morning but its now wet, cold and miserable here.

Message to Insider (and only message) from a typical impressionable newbie he'd try and scare into selling;

Your comments aren't remotely plausible. You talk drivel. Go back to bashing school. Consider yourself squelched.

Aye!

Chiva :o)

bos
These numbers are huge, hang on I have heard that one before, I am going to keep a close eye on pcm that's about all.

Nice one everybody,,even if he comes back we can't read him,,here's hoping for a better week all round...JB..

Hiya Jacks, yes I sold out of BPRG some time ago, over all I was up as been into BPRG from 40p ish, had a gut feeling something was not right with BPRG, wont be long before SEO is higher than BPRG at this rate. Poor sods that left there money in BPRG.

Currently I do not hold SEO (mores the pity) but will be back soon I hope, all funds tied up at present, waiting for another share to come good (firstafriaoil) then I will be back into SEO... hoping to get in sub 20p though... I live in hope.

Good luck you lucky people/investors, very astute investors...

And me. Jamie, sent you a email.

adieh,hello. long time no see. what's this? you are hoping to get back in at sub 20p? it's not you posing as insiderinside trying to get the price down is it???????????????:)
(stroking chin thoughtfully.....)

A resounding AYE from me too. It's all insider his own mind. Go back to the other side with your petty analysis and leave this bulletin board alone for the more astute investors who won't rise to the bait. You are filtered.

Ian Taylor

A request on behalf of all serious contributors to this bb, I believe, that insiderinside is permanently squelched from this and other MoneyAM boards. Overgrowth's post on "bashing" is the justification. No doubt he will return under another alias, but he will give himself away with a one-track mind.

Many thanks

Eric

Have copied this post directly to Ian. I haven't squelched insideoutside myself so that I can keep track of his shennanigins - occasional visitors to the board could be poisoned by him and lose hard earned money.

Eric

I thought only bigboys invested in shares and CFDs. The little boys and girls shouldn't be led astray. Censor all the postings other than mine and Eric's!!!



8-)

Can anyone put some fact behind that Spin Document on an RNS on the 24th March - it says only certain suppliers will be part of the deal (as the deal is with Asda suppliers and not exactly Asda) and then it says only those suppliers "where practical" would change.

Now the Asda deal is still not in effect due to further trials - meaning that contract is worth nothing as we stand - and even with the contract the price is then good for 13p. (yes it is horrendously over valued at the moment"

The RNS say "perhaps up to several hundred machines could be converted" well that actually means that between 10 to 999 could be converted - it may be 10 it may be 100 it could be anything up to the maximum 999.

Its very misleading - I wonder if anyone has any confirmed papers where the actual "potentially several hundred" is more defined ?

Or is it deliberate to say several hundred when they know - if and when the Asda deal comes into effect - maybe only 100 would ever be converted ??

Can anyone find any of the suppliers names in the trial programme who converted - I would like to find the actual selling price of the conversion kit - there are ramped figures about but they are totally false - are we talking of 5,000 pounds per machine - or 15,000 pounds per machine. It cannot be very much per machine as its then cheaper to buy new and forget about any retrofit programme - this is probably why the RNS said "expected" and "change where practical" - I can imagine many of Asda suppliers will refuse outright to spend their money with no R.O.I. (which again cannot be measured or guaged - we just get UP TO in the RNS - which means between 1 and XX % - really - Up to - I ask the question what are the Spin Doctors and Rampers UP TO. Can they not learn to post average figures - these explain in real detail - not just SPIN - UP TO "x"%.

I mean really - its so misleading - xxx company find the minimum saving of power could be 2% and the maximum 30% (on the oldest type of thermal sealer known to man) and the average 4%.

Now in an RNS they go and state - power savings up to 30%.

Is that misleading ?

If they said average saving 4% - then you would know and they could not put there is an ROI if the "indicated" figures are beaten - but if they post the maximum and say power savings up to - they can then say there is an ROI if that indicated up to figure is bettered.

Very strange.

Ignore this InsiderInside fellow - he is clearly a bear with an agenda to scare SEO investors with inaccurate bullshit. A friend of Weevil Kneival....