Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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Another silly non funny post by Freda

weren't the ira great exponents of the gentle art of niqabing?

on a less facetious note .....
set aside the link of wearing a niqab and islam and you are left with the conundrum of whether or not you should be allowed to wear what you choose wherever you like

you might get some very odd looks walking down the high street wearing a gorilla mask or similar, but it would not be illegal.
however, if you walked into a bank in such garb, it is certain that your collar would be felt .... why? ..... because it is a potential security risk

what would be the result of someone going into their local bank wearing a niqab?
i don't know

what happens at uk airports?
i don't know, but it must be an aspect that secruity there deal with every day

NHS
a favourite topic here is the deterioration of NHS over recent years
you guys love to get on your political soap-boxes about this, but i'm not pointing any fingers but merely asking

a) what % of NHS staff are "clipboard carriers" as opposed to genuine and productive operatives of some kind?

b) why are many NHS surgeons fearful of carrying out complicated surgery?

c) why are many NHS surgeons "unhappy" to operate on the very terminally ill?

d) how much time, money and effort is wasted on unproductive procedural checks which do little more than create a lot of paper and prove little more than there is a good paper trail to follow to "prove" efficiency?

e) when it is mooted that costs need to be trimmed in NHS, how many administrative posts and managerial levels are targeted?


merely asking; true answers and solutions not especially expected

cynic what good post and full of true facts .but alas you will get no answers

Plenty of people do go into banks wearing the burka. I say people as you cannot be sure they are women. There is an area quite near where I live that has a large population of Muslim women from Algeria and Somalia. The Somalis are easily spotted as they wear longer and fuller clothes, but rarely wear the veil.

i assume you mean a full burqa rather than a chador
if the former, do these women go into ordinary high street banks and have no trouble being served?

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tanker - i don't really expect answers as the questions are almost rhetorical ..... however, i have a pretty good idea as to why (c) and an inkling as to (b)

Ticks the wrong box, too often.

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They go into the local banks fully covered and have no trouble being served. The same applies in the Post Office.

Performance targets do not take into account (or not much) how hard the op is.

So difficult/dodgy ones need to be avoided to keep the bean counters happy.

so when they take their driving test who is at the wheel . or who is driving the car
who is claiming benefits how many names are they claiming benefit for .
and they go on about fraud.

the burka is used for fraud to claim benefits in others names

Some good points made by Tanker and hays re-burka.

IT SHOULD BE BANNED IN THIS COUNTRY along with HOODIES and sunglasses used for security manipulation.

Right the new PM ELECT is speaking.

Hays have you noticed how far you have fallen back on the YouGov/Sun poll 8% today.

What went so wrong??????????

MK - no ..... the answer to (c) is that very terminally ill patients are much more likely to die within 30 days of the operation ..... in such an event, there is always an enquiry, and much more importantly - at least for the doctor and the hospital - is that the death will show on the doctor's performance records

with regard to (b) the perception (true or false) within the medical profession is that because junior doctors no longer work the hours that they did say 20 years ago, they do not get the exposure, experience and knowledge .... thus, when it comes to complicated surgery, there is a likelihood that they will not have the confidence (or perhaps the knowledge) to perform it

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now try asking a proper question to which one can give an answer as opposed to a pile of "marshmallow fluff" that seems to have no substance

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