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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


jimmy b - 18 Apr 2005 08:51 - 3003 of 27111

Poverty read back the last couple of days,,what man...JB..

blackbelt - 18 Apr 2005 08:52 - 3004 of 27111

I've decided to squelch this tosser........

jimmy b - 18 Apr 2005 08:55 - 3005 of 27111

blackbelt he's been squelched by most ,since the weekend..JB..

dclinton - 18 Apr 2005 08:57 - 3006 of 27111

Quite frankly I am appalled at the treatment of insiderinside on this board. Most of his posts, especially his early ones, put forward nothing other than straightforward facts which anyone reading the RNS closely should be able to derive. Many of you posting here in recent days should be ashamed of yourselves.

He is quite right to point out that the main RNS on the ASDA deal says that it is contingent on further successful trials at three different sites. What seems to be misleading people is that the first paragraph says that SEO have entered into an exclusive, binding deal with ASDA and most people here seem to take that as meaning that the sales are assured. Careful reading several paragraphs down, though, quite clearly reveals that the sales within the agreement are contingent on further trials. Whether you agree with his interpretation of where the share price should be based on the facts is up to you, but to try and censor his opinion because it doesn't agree with your opinion is dreadful, especially to dress it up with "protecting the poor, nervous novice investor who might get scared out".

insiderinside has repeatedly asked members of this board to present facts which contradict this and instead I have seen nothing but 'insiderinside bashing' and a questioning of his motives in response along with snide allegations about his character.

I am really saddened by this. People on this board are constantly exhorting us to 'do our own research' yet it appears that if we do, and present a case which contradicts the sentiment of the members of this board then the only result is to be shot down with emotive, not factual, responses.

Full disclosure: I am a long-time member of MoneyAM. I do not know insiderinside except from his posts on this thread. I am a holder of SEO shares which have done quite well for me so far, and I expect them to continue to do better because I am confident that the trials upon which the ASDA sales are contigent will be as successful as those already undertaken. I don't hide behind a pseudonym, unlike most who post here.

No doubt, however, I will be attacked and slandered for daring to support insiderinside's right to post factual information as a result of his research, possibly even squelched by other members. Luckily, however, I don't base my investment decisions solely on the posts of other members here, but actually do my own research as I am constantly advised, and put the comments here into that context.

Doug Clinton

jimmy b - 18 Apr 2005 09:02 - 3007 of 27111

I also use my own name on here.doug,and i like to hear everyones view,,but if you can't see whats going on ,you must be blind..JB..

ptholden - 18 Apr 2005 09:06 - 3008 of 27111

Doug

I had started to write something along the same lines yesterday evening, but in the end gave up. It seems a fact of life that positive comment is OK (and of course never ramping!) yet a contrary view is treated with considerable contempt. The whole rationale for a BB IMO is to share information, interpretation and opinion. I also hold an interest in SEO.

Regards

PTH

TheFrenchConnection - 18 Apr 2005 09:11 - 3009 of 27111

Amities / l take offence from that last comment . Likewise every literate member on this board does his OWN research. TRY reading them !! We are a diverse broad lot from equally diverse backgrounds . Thats why we are here !! Thrown together by a pure concensus of logics that equates to the simple fact that each of us have recognised that in RF tec we have found the ace in the pack ,,,,Good post from deancroft manifestly pointing out the respective massive differences in RF tec and ultrasonics. l sneeked back into the market with a furthur 50,000 @ 18.91. Never imagind i would get the chance ; but i take what the market offers me ........a/b ..bonne chance a'vous,,,,Fares attention !! Sois sages !!!,,,@+ J,

Chiva20 - 18 Apr 2005 09:12 - 3010 of 27111

I like to hear everyones view, and as a new person to this game I take what everyone says with a pinch of salt until I've done my own research. It is overwhealmingly obvious even to me insider inside is slating SEO for his own gain. He's therefore taking advantage of the less experienced and effectively pinching from my pocket to line his, whilst creating a charade of heing a nice guy going out of his way to help us poor fools. Personally I find that dispicable, unlike the army of reasonable people here who are providing factual information and support, and as a result have made me money. I'm sorry Doug, I don't want to stoke the fire and start another debate about him but he's very transparent and to me and I just hope that by posting this other less experienced people would also see through him. It's a shame you don't.

overgrowth - 18 Apr 2005 09:24 - 3011 of 27111

Doug/pth - I don't know if you guys are traders or not - I assume not, because if you are you should know that it's a dog eat dog world out there in the markets.

Longer term investing is totally different where reasoned debate and fundamental analysis are to be encouraged.

I have read copies of insiderinside's views many many times over - why? Simply because he posts cutting and pasting the same stuff on numerous BB's where he hopes SEO investors will be reading. Now, you need to ask yourselves a question "Why on earth would someone want to post the same comments all over the place at the same time?". Unfortunately, it's not to help other investors or to provide reasoned debate - it's simply to get maximum short term exposure in a blatant attempt to force the price of SEO down by encouraging sellers.

I've been around a while and I've seen exactly the same tactics used before on other shares (RTD last year particularly springs to mind), albeit mainly over on ADVFN where the BB's are much less pleasant and accomodating compared to moneyam which I think is normally a great forum for genuine exchange of ideas and research etc.

I'm all for free speech on BB's unless I know for sure that the speaker is deliberately trying to manipulate and mislead the audience - hence insiderinside remains firmly squelched on my terminal.

driver - 18 Apr 2005 09:31 - 3012 of 27111

I never thought I would see 19p again and the last time I topped up I said was my last, but how could I miss such an opportunity, Topped up again (10th time)

TheFrenchConnection - 18 Apr 2005 09:35 - 3013 of 27111

Amities / off the cuff remark in one of the weekends papers is that based on fundementals SEO is overvalued . Sheeeeeet. lf you apply the same criteria to FTSE 100- so called blue chips- and 350 mid caps companies --75% of them are massively overbought and hence over valued !! @+ At least with SEO we are talking about a hi growth company and not a turgid stodgy blue chip . .......Driver- am in similar boat ,,lol l keep saying this will be the last time but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,here i am buying agan ......@+ J

sidtrix - 18 Apr 2005 09:39 - 3014 of 27111

They are on the rise again... (Vane is killing me right now hope it recovers fast) Common SEO 25p!!!!

insiderinside - 18 Apr 2005 09:41 - 3015 of 27111

The bulls will never believe - but again to clarify my positon a copy of my answer to a question -

Insiderinside,

Would you be so kind as to clarify your position on SEO?
Are you long, short, hoping to buy at a lower level or just really "helpful"?

You have quite obviously put a lot of effort into all your posts......but the question remains why?
I certainly would not put in that amount of work unless i had reason to!

It would certainly help the casual reader put things into context if you would be prepared to reveal your position.

'gards

Bemur

insiderinside - 18 Apr'05 - 09:33 - 47 of 47 edit

Purely to be helpful - like I say I have a dislike of ramping and shorting - and afraid to say SEO is extremely ramped - so I put the truth and fact on the table to counter the ramp.

Thats why - I have no interest other than to bring reality back into the equation for readers - and ask them to do some proper real research.

I never make commment on a stock I hold - as nobody can write with a level head on something they hold - temptation to avoid the bad - and post the good and possible - would make it very easy to get carried away and then become a bit of a ramper.

My comments on stocks are sometimes positive and sometimes negative - it depends on the fundamentals of the company - are they good or bad relative to the price.

dclinton - 18 Apr 2005 09:41 - 3016 of 27111

Jimmy B - I can see what's going on. A view which doesn't support the euphoric bubble surrounding SEO is posted and everyone jumps on it as being a party spoiler. What I see is a complete denial about the fact that the ASDA sales are still contingent on further trials.

TFC - yours are some of the most interesting, if typographically challenging posts on this board and I enjoy them very much when I have the energy to decipher them. However, comments like "we have found the ace in the pack" are extremely misleading, especially to impressionable newcomers. This is investing we're talking about. Very little is certain but it seems when facts are presented they are to be shot down. If SEO shows the value that most here, including me, expect then any comments from insiderinside, or anyone else you consider to be a de-ramper or basher, will be of no consequence. In recent months I have been on the wrong side of EK on a couple of stocks and suffered the short-term consequences. However, the long-term is determined by other factors. In practice, any de-ramping will only serve to give you the chance to top-up.

overgrowth - I have been a trader. It doesn't suit my style or temperment and I lost as much money there as I was willing to. Instead I concentrate on investing now because I seem to do better looking at fundamentals than charts. Nonetheless it has not stopped me making a (bearable) loss on GMC recently because of falling to the unrealistic hype generated on this board.

Why would someone want to post the same comments everywhere? Perhaps they simply want to correct a widespread mis-conception, namely that the ASDA sales are not yet in the bag despite the exclusive deal and point out to impressionable newcomers that the wildly optimistic tone set by many here is not backed up by facts.

Once again, I expect SEO, over coming years, to be a stellar performer in my portfolio. There is tremendous opportunity in their business and market, yet none of that is certain and if it all goes pear-shaped then I have my stop-losses in place to cut my downside. Trying to give the impression that it is all roses from here on in is as irresponsible to novice investors as what you accuse insiderinside of.

That's all I'm going to post on this subject. I joined this thread to talk about SEO, not to watch ad hominem attacks. I'm not particularly interested in defending insiderinside as I don't know him beyond his comments here. I simply want to make a stand for the freedom to post factual information on this board even if it contradicts the prevailing sentiment.

Doug

bosley - 18 Apr 2005 10:02 - 3017 of 27111

morning all. first and foremost i am for free speech, arguement and debate. a point only needs making once though , not repeatedly. why this man needs to keep saying the same thing i do not know. also, who exactly is ramping seo on this board? i do not agree with his interpretation of the asda rns or his views on seo. as far as i am concerned that's the end of it. as i said before, we shall soon see who is right.

driver - 18 Apr 2005 10:09 - 3018 of 27111

Doug
Good for you Doug I am also for freedom of speech, during the 70's I was I was on some sort of demo every other W/End marching and fighting for it, but insider is like some one with a board around his neck saying the world is going to end this Friday at 2pm, why is he telling us if it was true you would be of on an exotic holiday in some far flung place living life to the full not spending all his time in front of a computer, the only other reason that he or she might be doing it apart from the financial gain is that it's a good laugh.

bhunt1910 - 18 Apr 2005 10:17 - 3019 of 27111

Recognising the risk factors - these really are good buying opportunities at the moment. I had a little in reserve - cos I was expecting a market correction - but not for another month or so after the election). Have decided to invest 50% of that today - and yes - in SEO. Market might continue down a bit - but equally it could bounce - so hedging my bets

Baza.

Poverty - 18 Apr 2005 10:23 - 3020 of 27111

Well said Chiva, Overgrowth, FrenchConnection, Bosley and Driver. SEO isn't mercilessly ramped on this board - we all know how good it is. Freedom of speech is fine unless it is harmful to others or patently full of crap.

Sadly InsiderInfo is firmly in the latter camp. On Friday he was saying SEO were way overpriced at 21p BUT truly valued at 18p - Now he says the value is truly 13p - All complete rubbish! It is clear what his intentions are - He must work for Alasdair Campbell's office as his spin, though not effective, shows the same signs of determined arrogant manipulation and bullshit.

Hey InsiderImbecile - tell me should we go to war with Iran or France or who next do you think - and will that mean that SEO is over or under valued do you think???!

jimmy b - 18 Apr 2005 10:29 - 3021 of 27111

I thought we were not going to mention this idiot again!!..JB..

bhunt1910 - 18 Apr 2005 10:30 - 3022 of 27111

Lots of buys coming in - Buys outnumbering sales by 2:1 - but I guess you can all see that 4 yourselves !

baza
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