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I like to hear everyones view, and as a new person to this game I take what everyone says with a pinch of salt until I've done my own research. It is overwhealmingly obvious even to me insider inside is slating SEO for his own gain. He's therefore taking advantage of the less experienced and effectively pinching from my pocket to line his, whilst creating a charade of heing a nice guy going out of his way to help us poor fools. Personally I find that dispicable, unlike the army of reasonable people here who are providing factual information and support, and as a result have made me money. I'm sorry Doug, I don't want to stoke the fire and start another debate about him but he's very transparent and to me and I just hope that by posting this other less experienced people would also see through him. It's a shame you don't.

Doug/pth - I don't know if you guys are traders or not - I assume not, because if you are you should know that it's a dog eat dog world out there in the markets.

Longer term investing is totally different where reasoned debate and fundamental analysis are to be encouraged.

I have read copies of insiderinside's views many many times over - why? Simply because he posts cutting and pasting the same stuff on numerous BB's where he hopes SEO investors will be reading. Now, you need to ask yourselves a question "Why on earth would someone want to post the same comments all over the place at the same time?". Unfortunately, it's not to help other investors or to provide reasoned debate - it's simply to get maximum short term exposure in a blatant attempt to force the price of SEO down by encouraging sellers.

I've been around a while and I've seen exactly the same tactics used before on other shares (RTD last year particularly springs to mind), albeit mainly over on ADVFN where the BB's are much less pleasant and accomodating compared to moneyam which I think is normally a great forum for genuine exchange of ideas and research etc.

I'm all for free speech on BB's unless I know for sure that the speaker is deliberately trying to manipulate and mislead the audience - hence insiderinside remains firmly squelched on my terminal.

I never thought I would see 19p again and the last time I topped up I said was my last, but how could I miss such an opportunity, Topped up again (10th time)

Amities / off the cuff remark in one of the weekends papers is that based on fundementals SEO is overvalued . Sheeeeeet. lf you apply the same criteria to FTSE 100- so called blue chips- and 350 mid caps companies --75% of them are massively overbought and hence over valued !! @+ At least with SEO we are talking about a hi growth company and not a turgid stodgy blue chip . .......Driver- am in similar boat ,,lol l keep saying this will be the last time but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,here i am buying agan ......@+ J

They are on the rise again... (Vane is killing me right now hope it recovers fast) Common SEO 25p!!!!

The bulls will never believe - but again to clarify my positon a copy of my answer to a question -

Insiderinside,

Would you be so kind as to clarify your position on SEO?
Are you long, short, hoping to buy at a lower level or just really "helpful"?

You have quite obviously put a lot of effort into all your posts......but the question remains why?
I certainly would not put in that amount of work unless i had reason to!

It would certainly help the casual reader put things into context if you would be prepared to reveal your position.

'gards

Bemur

insiderinside - 18 Apr'05 - 09:33 - 47 of 47 edit

Purely to be helpful - like I say I have a dislike of ramping and shorting - and afraid to say SEO is extremely ramped - so I put the truth and fact on the table to counter the ramp.

Thats why - I have no interest other than to bring reality back into the equation for readers - and ask them to do some proper real research.

I never make commment on a stock I hold - as nobody can write with a level head on something they hold - temptation to avoid the bad - and post the good and possible - would make it very easy to get carried away and then become a bit of a ramper.

My comments on stocks are sometimes positive and sometimes negative - it depends on the fundamentals of the company - are they good or bad relative to the price.

Jimmy B - I can see what's going on. A view which doesn't support the euphoric bubble surrounding SEO is posted and everyone jumps on it as being a party spoiler. What I see is a complete denial about the fact that the ASDA sales are still contingent on further trials.

TFC - yours are some of the most interesting, if typographically challenging posts on this board and I enjoy them very much when I have the energy to decipher them. However, comments like "we have found the ace in the pack" are extremely misleading, especially to impressionable newcomers. This is investing we're talking about. Very little is certain but it seems when facts are presented they are to be shot down. If SEO shows the value that most here, including me, expect then any comments from insiderinside, or anyone else you consider to be a de-ramper or basher, will be of no consequence. In recent months I have been on the wrong side of EK on a couple of stocks and suffered the short-term consequences. However, the long-term is determined by other factors. In practice, any de-ramping will only serve to give you the chance to top-up.

overgrowth - I have been a trader. It doesn't suit my style or temperment and I lost as much money there as I was willing to. Instead I concentrate on investing now because I seem to do better looking at fundamentals than charts. Nonetheless it has not stopped me making a (bearable) loss on GMC recently because of falling to the unrealistic hype generated on this board.

Why would someone want to post the same comments everywhere? Perhaps they simply want to correct a widespread mis-conception, namely that the ASDA sales are not yet in the bag despite the exclusive deal and point out to impressionable newcomers that the wildly optimistic tone set by many here is not backed up by facts.

Once again, I expect SEO, over coming years, to be a stellar performer in my portfolio. There is tremendous opportunity in their business and market, yet none of that is certain and if it all goes pear-shaped then I have my stop-losses in place to cut my downside. Trying to give the impression that it is all roses from here on in is as irresponsible to novice investors as what you accuse insiderinside of.

That's all I'm going to post on this subject. I joined this thread to talk about SEO, not to watch ad hominem attacks. I'm not particularly interested in defending insiderinside as I don't know him beyond his comments here. I simply want to make a stand for the freedom to post factual information on this board even if it contradicts the prevailing sentiment.

Doug

morning all. first and foremost i am for free speech, arguement and debate. a point only needs making once though , not repeatedly. why this man needs to keep saying the same thing i do not know. also, who exactly is ramping seo on this board? i do not agree with his interpretation of the asda rns or his views on seo. as far as i am concerned that's the end of it. as i said before, we shall soon see who is right.

Doug
Good for you Doug I am also for freedom of speech, during the 70's I was I was on some sort of demo every other W/End marching and fighting for it, but insider is like some one with a board around his neck saying the world is going to end this Friday at 2pm, why is he telling us if it was true you would be of on an exotic holiday in some far flung place living life to the full not spending all his time in front of a computer, the only other reason that he or she might be doing it apart from the financial gain is that it's a good laugh.

Recognising the risk factors - these really are good buying opportunities at the moment. I had a little in reserve - cos I was expecting a market correction - but not for another month or so after the election). Have decided to invest 50% of that today - and yes - in SEO. Market might continue down a bit - but equally it could bounce - so hedging my bets

Baza.

Well said Chiva, Overgrowth, FrenchConnection, Bosley and Driver. SEO isn't mercilessly ramped on this board - we all know how good it is. Freedom of speech is fine unless it is harmful to others or patently full of crap.

Sadly InsiderInfo is firmly in the latter camp. On Friday he was saying SEO were way overpriced at 21p BUT truly valued at 18p - Now he says the value is truly 13p - All complete rubbish! It is clear what his intentions are - He must work for Alasdair Campbell's office as his spin, though not effective, shows the same signs of determined arrogant manipulation and bullshit.

Hey InsiderImbecile - tell me should we go to war with Iran or France or who next do you think - and will that mean that SEO is over or under valued do you think???!

I thought we were not going to mention this idiot again!!..JB..

Lots of buys coming in - Buys outnumbering sales by 2:1 - but I guess you can all see that 4 yourselves !

baza

Yes bhunt showing how strong it is even in this market..JB..

I think we should sensor Doug.

I know have 2 blues on my screen. They are spoiling the overall colour screen.


Why not sit back and be miserable for a few days.?

Its quite amazing how the MMs work sometimes - take a look at GBP (Global Pet) - down nearly 20% and no sells - and even 2 buys.

It generally follows that after a morning sell off - there is a mid morning pause and even tick up - this is because the MMs have to level their books - they have to sell back what they got in the early morning - as a matter of fact most MMs end the day nearly neutral - one or two will take turns in holding the risk and having excess stock on their books - that the others can draw upon - although that rarely happens and its why people jump on MM to MM trades - as it means one MM is now short of stock - a bull sign.

Just a bit of advice to newbies if there are any here - and sorry for boring you experienced traders.

Amities / The entire market appears to be getting something of a pasting . .MMs marked SEO down a little on inception which produced something of a plethora of "panic" sells which sent the "bid" price down as low as 18.5 .,,,,,and in stepped the buyers en masse ,,,few tasty buys of 250,000 @ 19.7./ Sitting now at a "bid" of 19-25 as the heavy bridgehead of support at 18p stands firm . .Bodes well , i hope . Bonne chance , @+ J ...

lucky you, fred. i got nowt but red all over my watchlist.

Bos

Eric tells me you might be interested in the Golf Challenge?

PTH

Fred1new
We do NOT just sensor investors at a whim Doug is not a new name he has been around a long time, not like the Hello I have just popped up insider who we now know is just a professional or would like to be, share basher that is done for financial gain.