goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 04 Oct 2013 01:16
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Farage has no MPs and little chance of getting any. Of course he shouldn't be allowed in TV debate. It gives him more credence than he deserves. Why not have the Green party or the Monster Raving Loony party. The TV debate is not a right for any party. It is just a piece of television. The public have come to expect a TV debate these days. I am sure Miluband/Clegg can arrange a televised debate if they want one.
Haystack
- 04 Oct 2013 01:23
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I am looking forward to a Conservative clear majority and then they can repeal the hunting ban.
Chris Carson
- 04 Oct 2013 07:17
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That statement just makes you look silly H. Hardly number one on the list of priority. Why would that concern you anyway? Don't you live in the City?
cynic
- 04 Oct 2013 07:33
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farage has as much right to a tv debate as the conservatives have of getting an overall majority in the next election
aldwickk
- 04 Oct 2013 08:23
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Haystack
Fox hunting is a cruel blood sport that should be banned forever , there are just as many chicken's killed by dog's and nearly all sheep are killed by dog's.There is no massive problem from fox's.
Haven't heard anything about all those hunting dog's and horse's that were going to be killed if there was a ban , also the mass unempolyment in the countryside.
ps a slight problem in the city's , but they do clear up a lot of waste food that would have been eated by rat's.
aldwickk
- 04 Oct 2013 08:27
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Chris
I have been onto Chess . com , yes its a very good free site , i have made a note of your username.
Chris Carson
- 04 Oct 2013 08:29
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Ok Aldwick, cheers. Enjoy.
MaxK
- 04 Oct 2013 08:32
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Cleggy has nothing to lose by having a debate with Farage, he might even repair some of the damage...cos he's good at presentation.
Millibandus, not so sure, but he obviously fancies his chances, and what has he got to lose?
Cameroon, well, he's fooked anyway. He wont be able to control the flow as he does in the set piece HoC debates, so will probably come across as a wooden talking head.
No wonder he don't want a debate.
goldfinger
- 04 Oct 2013 08:57
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Yep but Max he'l have one of those secret hidden bugs in his ear hole with Lynton Crosby telling him what to say and do, how to smile how to use his hands etc etc.
MaxK
- 04 Oct 2013 09:07
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He's not too good at that even with the someone telling him what to do gf.
He seems to prefer the set piece "debates" where he has control.
No way will he want to walk into a casino type debate, cos Cleggy and Farage will tear him to pieces, even the Millibandus stands a good chance of making him look stupid.
It's a lose lose situation for Cameroon, so I can understand his reluctance.
Fred1new
- 04 Oct 2013 09:09
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But you will see his strings being pulled.
2517GEORGE
- 04 Oct 2013 09:29
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So, the unions also not paying their taxes, hypocrites.
2517
Fred1new
- 04 Oct 2013 09:56
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Ask Hays about not paying taxes?
2517GEORGE
- 04 Oct 2013 10:02
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I know Haystacks views on not paying taxes, and I disagree with him, but the unions have been banging the drum about companies failing to pay their taxes, like I said, hypocrites.
2517
Haystack
- 04 Oct 2013 11:00
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The fox hunting bill was voted down twice by parliament. Blair has said that he regretted promising to pass the law in the election. To pass the fox hunting act into law he used the Parliament Act to force it through. This is a misuse of due process. The Parliament Act was introduced to force through important financial legislation similar to that needed at present in the US. It has only been used in a handful of situation even after it was amended in 1949 to widen its scope. The age of homosexual sex was pushed through with it. Pushing the Hunting with Dogs Act through in this way against the wishes of parliament is an abuse of power. The act should be repealed and if needed debated and voted on afresh. I do live in a city, but approve of hunting.
aldwickk
- 04 Oct 2013 12:40
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Haystack
The wish of the people was to ban it .
I see you have not answered the reason's i gave why it should be banned.
Haystack
- 04 Oct 2013 13:03
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I see no reason to ban it. It is part of the traditional culture of the country. Plenty of people approve of it. The people who want to ban hunting are mainly city dwellers who don't want badger culls, want natural childbirth, ban nuclear weapons, stop fracking etc.
It is academic at present, partly as hunting still continues on private land and local law turns a blind eye. You can bet that with a good majority the law will be repealed.
aldwickk
- 04 Oct 2013 14:27
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Haystack
Badger culls have not been proved to work .
"It is part of the traditional culture of the country " so you would approve of bear baiting , dog fighting and cock fighting and badger baiting then ?
doodlebug4
- 04 Oct 2013 14:27
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You forgot to mention pheasant shooting in that list Haystack! I have lived in both the city and the country. Wherever I live I find fox hunting completely barbaric. There is something grotesque about a pack of riders encouraging a pack of hounds to chase a fox and then enjoying the spectacle of watching it getting ripped to shreds.
Haystack
- 04 Oct 2013 14:36
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Everywhere I have lived in a city foxes are a pest. They raid bins in the area and I have had soiled nappies left on the lawn. They often have bad infections of mange, which could pass to my dogs. They are just as much of a pest in the country.
I am afraid it is just a matter of personal opinion. Badger culling has yet to be proved good or bad and needs good trials. Pheasant shooting is fine and that includes deer, rabbits, hares and various game birds. I don't expect you to agree with me. I am quite happy for you to be opposed to hunting, but it will continue for many years to come.