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adie , are we calling this wrong completely? just been re reading the bprg thread to find out when the damages claim is to be settled and it seems it wont be before the end of this month , but in early 2005. shit! i was hoping this whole thing would be put to bed once and for all by end nov. bloody hell!

These sort of legal things take ages to sort out unfortunately, my understanding is that SEO have to present their (extra) evidence by next week, if they have any that is? (who knows). I think it is correct to assume it won't be sorted till early next year... Lets hope the other tray lidding technology is set by then...

just been looking at a 6 month graph of seo share price.seems to me that the current price has basically gone back to what it was prior to the start of the patent case with bprg.in the meantime we have had a reasonable flow of good news , from oscar meyer trialing the tray lidding, grampian country foods trialing it to asda trialing the tray lidding, the purchase of aquasol,new patent applications and tray lidding deal with reiser in america. bad news , widening loss and losing the patent dispute with bprg. i would have thought with so much good news that the current price would be higher , unless its been forgotten and ignored because , like we have been saying , the court case took peoples attention away from the rest.the reiser deal alone is worth 4 miliion to seo.

thats 4 million a year.

bosley-hopefully when result of cc is known you will be able to say it's already in the price!! so won't fall very much... I hope.

that got said a lot earlier in the year , pat, then it fell to sub 4p.i wasnt really trying to make a point , just thinking out loud really.i had forgotten that reiser were american , so , that means they already are in america,so, that means that if asda like the trial , and then walmart take it to america , that means they will have a serious foothold in america , which starts to make tim freeborns ludicrous predictions a little less fanciful, and if other packaging companies use seo technology then that means............ drifting off , spending my millions .....mmmmmmmmm

bosley-lol

although a fan of seo have you guys/gals never heard of "buy on the rumour, sell on the news "?

its the only mantra that works ( imo )

have you read any of the previous posts super?

morning all. blue start for a cold monday morn.

Morning Bosley, couldn't resist topped up today...

is that why its up today then? your buy pushing the price up?:)

Lol I wish, only a few thousand more but in for the long term.

bit of a drop this morning. people selling in anticipation of damages annoncement? couple of largeish sells late yesterday too . but buyers coming back in now buy price is 6p.(5.93)

Yep totally agree but the compensation won't be sorted today, well thats my understanding, the case today is to confirm what other details SEO have in regard to an appeal, I stand to be corrected though...

Got a good thread going, huh?
Well sorry if I've spread (some maintain are ) falsehoods, as the consensus is that the Damages are in the price - no they are not. If they are then tell me what they are and how many months/years existing business profits will be needed to pay for this fiasco.
My comments regarding the simple machinery, was merely Life/Business in general; it's not rocket science, nor are they dealing with critically ill patients (as in any wonder Bio product). They get a container and stick a lid on it - it's then repeated hour after hour. It may be very clever and save (eg ASDA) lots of money, but it ain't gonna make profits if the business is mortally wounded by the cc Ruling. No-one knows.
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The SEO share is very much news driven and I thought the thread (now gone) was getting over-excited about the ASDA news.....so, just an element of caution; but I see I'm too late, the party's started and the drinks are a-flowing. Just watch it! Arround early Oct04 the sp went from c.6p to c.4p - a massive fall over a few days.
Once the Damages are sorted, and everyone's been paid, then we shall see if Heads should roll - only then can the company provide figures for the Market and only then will we know when (or if) a profit will trickle-down to investors - a species that has largely been ignored by this Company.
- Now look at the PE....do you still feel lucky?

Dear hang on
The initial and short lived drop to 4p was an over reaction to the initial news, which once everyone had a chance to reassess realised that any likely payment would not be much as they had not derived any gain from it. Any payment would be basicaly for them not being more careful about who owned the IPR on productas they were trying to develop.
In addition to this SEO have continued to deliver additional good news on orders won and future performance which has now brought the price back to where it was before all this started, but not really a lot further.
This price discounts all new positive developments (incl ASDA)annd iI think should have further to go in the short term. All IMO

Buys are powering ahead but market seems to have a pschycological barrier to 6p

bosley
i have read all the posts on this thread. my commentwas not a criticism of SEO, just an observation of the market in general. i watch a lot of stocks and almost without exception the share retraces after good news. however big a fan i am of a stock i will sell a fair nunber on good news. nearly always manage to buy back later, cheaper, with few quid in the bank.

6p barrier has been there for over a year will . . hangon, nobody is partying yet. speaking for myself , i have been on the look out for a company with a good story , a good product and loads of potential. seo ticks my boxes. all companies are a risk, (cf jarvis,pretty much every tech stock in 2001, mytravel,etc.)but seo have something that is quite new , that companies like , that will be legislation driven and has bags of potential. the patent dispute with bprg HAS been overdone. damages wont be that severe because not a lot of money was earned by seo . basically , bprg now get a finished product that THEY can make big bucks from . good luck to them. back to seo . some companies have already signed up to use seos packaging technology , some are at trial stage . you cannot deny the massive potential here, even if it is merely putting lids on things. putting lids on things will bring in an extra 4million this year just from one company , and 4million next year from the same company . get afew of them going, as they are trying to do , and you get good profits. sounds pretty good to me . i DO agree with you that the seo management could have handled all this shit better. but , as i have said before, its this mangaement team that have developed this company from a welding company to one which has the potential to make serious money in the future.its been said before , and i will repeat it for hangon , because he seems to think we are all lemmings ready to fall off the cliff. it will be a good day when this dispute is over, when the uncertainty is gone,when calim and counter claim is settled and we all know the end figures. until then this is all mere speculation . people who have put money into seo are taking the view that damages will not be so severe that seo will crumble. it may hurt but the future will still be bright.as you say about life, its a gamble.