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Yes snurkle, I got the whole shebang and have been making colloidal silver for about 18 months, and like you have not had a cold during that time. I'm a great believer, though friends think I'm loopy, and I don't shout about it too much.

I was somewhat perturbed to see a youtube clip that suggested that colloidal silver could not survive stomach acid, and I won't even go into how it was suggested that it should be taken - needless to say that I am still taking it orally. I would be interested to know if you have any info re stomach acid and cs.

I've never heard of Diatamaceous Earth but will look into it.

mabel

Below is part of a post from a guy called vizz on the AGQ thread on the other side which might be of interest. The post was 29824 and part of a discussion about vitamins, vaccinations etc. but it occurs to me that quite a few people take MSM for joints and this might be of interest.

I'm sure squirrell will remember vizz because she was involved in those discussions. He was certainly very informed, though he only posted for a short while.

He opened my eyes to the importance of vitamin D3 amongst other things and suggested Swanson D3 5000 i.u which are about £7 for 250. We as a family have been taking them since then and I tell anyone who will listen about the importance of D3.

I also use the horse shampoo he suggested and my hair is in great condition.



Glad to be of help. Yes, capsule MSM is an inferior product compared to the refined powder, but difficult to source in the UK from health food outlets, but no problem if you're a valuable horse accustomed to 1st class care. The 1kg tub (£36) from the below is as pure as you can buy and will last you 5 mts+ at 2 teaspoons per day(1 ea, morning & night), dilute in water

If taking any dietary supplements or medication, always take the MSM at least 30 min afterwards
as otherwise it may interfere with proper absorption of your pills.

To go above a £40 order for free delivery, I recommend you enter Teatree shampoo in their search box and buy a litre, which will last for ages and is free of the unhealthy chemicals found in shampoo for expendable humans. I use it myself and it always leaves me with a shiny coat! ;)

http://www.millbryhill.co.uk/equestrian-530/horse-supplements-780/joints-mobility-786/natural-animal-supplements-2861.htm

mabel

Cheers Mabel, I will look into D3.
As for teatree shampoo, me and my doggies have been using it for quite some time and are scrubbing up fabulous :-)

Good to see silver having a good start of the day. Hopefully we'll have turned the $18 corner for good.

The following link is off topic, but no doubt will interest a few of you.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/war/haarp_weather_modification_electromagnetic_warfare_weapons

Mabel - yes I remember those discussions. VitD3 helped me no end through the winter months in the UK. Since coming to the ME I have been swimming everyday and taking in a little sunshine - early morning before the heat is too stifling. 20 mins is plenty. I've also given up coffee - finding it too irritating to my system. Tea is fine and so is chocolate (drinks). No headaches when giving up the coffee but I did have a very small skin irritation which has vanished completely since stopping the coffee. I then read up that people can actually be allergic to coffee beans.

I think the only thing I am short of here is a fresh air walk each day. Can walk a short distance in the sun - about 5 mins and then I am in the safety of a cool air mall. Plenty of room to walk in there and in fact the papers here encourage people to do so.

I've had quite a few "insight" moments here and dreams.

With regards to silver and its requirements right now and in the future - it's huge - and I mean HUGE. No one is going to stop the ME from growing and they may well percentage wise outgrow China - per capita/to the land. Added to that is the support it gives to workers from India and the Philipines and other Asian countries - huge. Pay for those people here is much better than in their own countries.

I'd guess that there is at least another 20-30 years growth here. In terms of the amount of silver needed for technology, for construction, for solar, for infrastructure - rail and mono-rail - it is phenomenal.

We won't be here to see it - many many others far younger than us with qualifications will be coming here - they'd be mad not to.

Look at what is happening in Egypt right now - they have no work, no hope. They must get steady and balance so they can then plug themselves in to the huge potential growth they can have for themselves. It will happen. Syria too - nasty though it is - the people want to be MIDDLE CLASS - they've had enough of being held back and down. It's total madness to not think these young people - many western educated are going to go back to the medieval living - they won't.

It's an exciting time for the young, for the qualified and for those willing to take on the adventure of working hard and probably away from their homeland. BUT the rewards for those that do it are amazing.

I'm just trying to plug in to a little piece of that. Silver is the magic key.

Morning all.
I'm sure you guys have been aware that Eriktherock next door called silver absolutely spot on last Friday. How he did it, I have no idea but when he said yesterday that that was the bottom last Friday I have to admit that I lean towards believing him more than the 'gurus' such as jim Williams who keeps calling gold $5-10-50 thousand dollars.

He also said that we'd probably see a new high in about a year.

Wouldn't that be nice???????

Hi snurkle, yes I did see Eriktherock's call, but if my memory serves me right I think he has called the bottom previously. It has certainly fallen far lower than I would ever have thought because I always imagined that the price was to some extent protected by the stampede to buy physical at every drop. Shows just how little I know.

I've been buying silver now for about 5 years and initially bought the pretty ones like the Australian lunar series, and I particularly like the Chinese pandas. I give these to children in the family for presents. When it came to buying in larger numbers I tended to go for whatever was cheapest, usually the Canadian maples.

All the bullish forecasts for future silver prices made me consider possible sale prices and consequently capital gains tax, so now I would only ever buy Brittanias even if it means paying a bit more.

I can't understand why people buy silver bars at all. At the point of sale they would be liable for capital gains, and isn't there some sort of problem with hall marking?

On the other hand, I regard my silver as insurance and I wonder what the circumstances will be that would make me want to sell.

Any thoughts.

mabel

Plenty of thoughts Mabel. Funnily enough silver is never far from my mind :-)

I started buying silver in 2010. That's when I started to understand the beginners layers of the silver story.
I nearly bought a load in Nov 2008, but my dad in law told me to buy gold as it didn't have the dreaded vat on top of the cost.
Now I wish I had done my own research, but hey buying gold at £525 an ounce is a price I am happy with and it does make for diversification.

As for silver, I have bought with 'horses for courses' attitude.
50% of my purchases have been bought with 'money' in mind. It's part of my pension plan and they consist of Brits and Maples.

25% are for their collective value. Got some weird ones in there such as the Somalian, Rwanda, Surinam and Noah's. Also the Kilo coins interest me and of course the privy ones which I pointed out on the other thread awhile back... in that case the Koala 2011 & 12.

The remaining 25% I have in bars of various sizes and are for the SHTF moment if it ever arrives. Really more of a back up.

Especially of late I just bought the cheaper ones as in the end silver is silver. Amazing though how premiums for coins of different years are in place.

I hope you've been able to fill your boots pretty good in the last week. Like you I truly believed I'd never see these prices ever again, but paper rules.... until it doesn't anymore and that time will soon be upon us. All news that hits the wires re silver is more and more bullish. At some stage they'll have no choice but to let it go and boy will it go!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-01/jpmorgan-comes-out-first-overweight-call-commodities-september-2010

I think the bottom is in too. Things like oil are going to go through a turbulant time - look at Egypt, Syria, Iraq is still dangerous & Afghanistan. All will contribute to higher prices. PMs will follow. Very sparky these young folk - they're not going to give up. Big push for what they want.

http://www.cobdencentre.org/2013/07/forward-guidance-nonsense-central-bankers-have-no-choice/

Posted on other site on SCLP thread and very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwZN1cPfX8


macnai 6 Jul'13 - 03:26 - 898 of 901 0 0

Cure for Malaria?


Too easy,too cheap?
Please view the video and make up your own mind.

mabel

Good afternoon
Snurkle
- interesting read re the diatomaceus earth - just ordered some. Interesting read - great for clearing slugs and bugs, and handy as an internal digestive parasite cleanse too.
The potential health benefits looked to good to not try and your rec goes a long way.

Read the warnings re do not breathe with interest, seems about the equivalent in effect of inhaling fibreglass fibres.

Will let you know how I get on with it.

Mabel

Thanks for the link to the equine supplies - a good value source of both products.

Human tea tree shampoo in the shops - usually has no tea trea oil in it (just an aroma). A bit like wrights coal tar soap used to have coal tar in it, now it doesn't have any in, just the smell equivalent.

Horses always get the good stuff - they don't have health insurance, or NHS generating huge profits for big phrama when ..they.. are ill

Actually have some of the Jim Humble sodium chlorite solutions stuff in the cupboard (a just in case solution to any dire infection).

- The cover up by the Red Cross of it's 24hr effectiveness against malaria was very interesting to watch.
(no great suprise tho' if you track back the R/Cross origins - they.. wouldn't want all those Africans not dying an' all)
- sad world when you see..... the big picture

All Edward G Griffin stuff is worth reading or listening too.

This one is well worth the time on the (sad) really big picture & how it ticks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udWXFC2sWU8&feature=player_embedded

Only got back last night.
Last minute choice with the weather set fair, to throw in the camping gear and head for a fixed Norfolk coast rather than tour down the coast.
Son now settled in new house and ours still in one piece after his week in residence :o)

Other son said with the weather looking blazing for the weekend, if we were going to stay on a few extra days, then he would come down with his partner (and camping gear) as they had Monday booked off as lieu days.
- with the weather as it was, didn't take much arm twisting.

When we go away no TV, no newspapers, no internet etc...we just step off "the world" other than odd 2min news on the car radio when we are on the move.

So will do some catch up reading tonight.

Today, something happened
- that has not happened since the Lehman collapse:
- the 1 Month Gold Forward Offered (GOFO) rate turned negative, from 0.015% to -0.065%, for the first time.... in nearly 5 years,
(or technically since just after the Lehman bankruptcy precipitated AIG bailout in November 2011).

And if one looks at the 3 Month GOFO, which also.... turned shockingly negative overnight from 0.05% to -0.03%,
- one has to go back all the way to ......the 1999 Washington Agreement on gold,
to find the last time that particular GOFO rate was negative.

CAUSE ??
- the reality is that one can't know for sure .....until after the fact.
- It may be one of many things:

•An ETF-induced repricing of paper and physical gold
•Ongoing deliverable concerns and/or shortages involving one (JPM) or more Comex gold members.
•Liquidations in the paper gold market
•A shortage of physical gold for a non-bullion bank market participant
•A major fund unwinding a futures pair trade involving at least one gold leasing leg
•An ongoing bullion bank failure with or without an associated allocated gold bank "run"
•All of the above

The answer for now is unknown.
- But - What is known .......is that something very abnormal,
- and even historic,
is afoot...... at the nexus of the gold fractional reserve lending market.
zh

Snurkle - if you remember the Chilean miner who took on Barrick gold - over the ownership title of the Pascua Lama

Coincidence ??
(or nice cover story :o)

Barrick Mining - expects to book.... $4.5-$5.5 bln impairment charge... on Pascua-Lama

TORONTO, June 28 (Reuters) - Barrick Gold Corp said on Friday it is slowing construction at its Pascua-Lama gold project in South America,
- as it looks to rein in spending on the severely delayed project,
- already billions of dollars over budget.

Wow it's hot out there (missing the sea breeze already)
- preparing/& repairing :o(... an 8ftx8ft up and over "wooden" garage door ready for painting.

Mabel
re Vitamins - Vitamin D essential for a healthy immune system
- your skin makes oodles of it when exposed to the sun
(hence why - we tend to get bugs and flu's in feb - ie just when your body's summer made stores of vit D run down).

Big profits for the pharma/mafia
1 - keep out the sun, you could get skin cancer - you don't make vit D, you get ill - big bucks profits.

2 - lather up in those ..big bucks profit... multi chemical sunscreens - your skin absorbs all those chemicals - compromises your health/immune system - you get ill....so even more big bucks profits.

Did an experiment way back in school days in chemistry - dipped just a finger
- in a solution (Probably DMSO) - with aniseed in it
- you could taste the aniseed within ....2 seconds
(used to demonstrate just how absorbent your skin is)

As to sunscreens
- a retired chemist once told me - if you don't know what it is, can't pronounce it or.......if you wouldn't eat or drink it.
..."for goodness sake don't put it on your skin !!"

The other essential for the immune system is Vitamin C

- nearly all other mammals make it themselves
(I think it's just humans and something like guniea pigs/hamsters who are ...an enzyme short.. in being able to make it ithemselves).

When other mamals get ill their body's production of Vit C - goes thro' the roof
- but as we can't make it - we have to injest it
(again from memory most plant/vegetables even meat/dairy eggs contain elements of it, not just citrous fruits.
...so the fast food eaters....oops again on that one too)

It's from memory but I think Big Pharma manufactures most Vit C supplements - from corn
(& 80% plus U.S corn is.....yes...you guessed....genetically modified)

As of today GFO rates on gold are now negative out to 6m

In a nutshell this means :-

The GOFO is the interest rate that you would pay
- to borrow dollars
- and use gold as collateral for the loan.

Obviously with collateral like gold, the interest rate you pay to borrow dollars would be lower than if you were borrowing the dollars unsecured.
- If the GOFO is negative, it means
- that someone is willing.... to lend you dollars
- AND pay you .....interest
- in exchange for use of ....your gold as collateral.
It's really someone borrowing your gold with interest .....and putting up dollars as collateral.

The only reason this would occur
- is if someone desperately needs to get their hands on gold
- but thinks they'll be able to return it within the time frame of the loan - out now to six months in this case. A negative rate out to 6 months tells us t
- hat there's a big delivery shortage
- and bullion banks are willing to pay an interest rate..... to borrow gold.... and put up dollars as collateral.
- It also tells us that gold today is worth more than gold re-delivered out to 6 months.

In addition
- Comex Gold futures contracts are in - backwardation too
- in a nutshell - it costs more to buy gold delivered ....now
- than it does to buy in 3/6 months time
- normally the reverse is true (ie why would you sell your gold - at less than you could sell it for today - and then wait 3/6 months for your money)

This suggests people need to/or are willing to pay a premium to ge hold of physical ....now
- rather than waiting to (hopefully) get it cheaper later, by waiting.

Taking the above two pointers together - perhaps a desperate scramble to get hold of physical metal.

A couple of weeks ago - the Vietnamese Gov actioned off some "physical" gold - it obtained....
- nearly $300 per oz over....the prevailing comex spot price at the time.

let's consider this month's Bank Participation Report. This aggregated report gives us a once-a-month look at the gross positions of those traders classified as banks, both U.S. and non-U.S. Now ...
- check this out...let's start with the report from.... last October
(so that you can see from this perspective just how steep the changes have been in the nine months since).

GROSS LONG / GROSS SHORT

U.S. Banks 40,625 / 146,809

Non U.S. Banks 34,881 / 113,445

TOTAL 75,506 / 248,254

And now here are the numbers from last month (June).
Note that the banks had moved from ......net short position of 172,748
- to a small net long position of 4,582.

GROSS LONG / GROSS SHORT

U.S. Banks 56,751 / 27,129

Non U.S. Banks 24,035 / 49,075

TOTAL 80,786 / 76,204

Well, we've all been waiting with baited breath for the July report.
- Would the banks continue to cover on these falling prices
- or were they adding to the downside momentum?
We got our answer:

GROSS LONG / GROSS SHORT

U.S. Banks 69,565 / 24,939

Non U.S. Banks 34,904 / 58,565

TOTAL 104,560 / 83,859

The total .....net long position
- grew by over 16,000 contracts to an astounding 20,701.

Join the dots - the paper price crash - has allowed a massive net short position - to be covered.....and a net long position being established.....and growing :o)

Worth reading this hedge fund manager's comments re - the gold that his funds refiner - claims they have been smelting ( & importantly the origin stamps on it - before.....they re-smelted it)

Hong Kong hedge fund manager William Kaye
- re the missing Fed .....and German gold,
- where it has gone, and how much gold the People’s Bank Of China (PBOC) really owns.
Kaye, who 25 years ago worked for Goldman Sachs in mergers and acquisitions, and also ran money for George Soros,

My sources tell me that contrary to the public numbers that are available,
- China has anywhere between 4,000 to possibly 8,000 tons of (physical) gold

Gold has been leased out, and we do know this (takes place) because
- it’s been admitted to by the major central banks. The Fed has admitted it, the European Central Bank has admitted it, the Bank of England has admitted it. They’ve all admitted that they engage in wholesale leasing of gold to the market.

In practice how that (leasing) works is the Fed would contact their agent, typically JP Morgan, sometimes Goldman Sachs, and they would say, ‘OK, the gold price needs to be capped, so here is 20, 30, 40, 50 tons (of gold) that we’re going to lease out to you as our agent. But in theory
- we can call it back.’

That’s a great theory, but in reality it’s nonsense because
- once JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs get the gold they sell it into the market.
- So these bullion banks then become net-short gold.
(And the Fed says, ‘Well, we still have a contract where in theory we can claim the gold. So we’re going to report that we still own it in the official documents.’)

But in reality the gold has been sold into the market.
- That gold winds up in places like Beijing.
- But before it gets to Beijing it frequently goes through Hong Kong.
- And when it goes to Hong Kong,
------it goes to our refiner, -----------the same people we use.

And by the way,
- we may own some of the gold .......that Germany thinks that they own.
- But Germany will never see that gold
- because it’s safely stored in my account (and) for our investors...... at the Hong Kong International Airport.

Regarding that gold, which could have had...... the symbol of the Bundesbank on it when it arrived in Hong Kong,
- a leading refiner,
- one of the biggest in the world that deals with the People’s Bank of China (PBOC), certified that.......
- , ‘Yes, we’ve got gold available that we can deliver.
- We’ve melted it down, we’ve tested it.
- It may have had...... the Bundesbank symbol.... on it - when it arrived,
- but now .........it’s melted down .9999 (fine) gold.’

That’s how it works in practice.
- So the Fed gold, that Americans think is theirs, is gone.
- The gold that the Germans have been told they will get back in 7 years,...... they’ll never get back because .........it doesn’t exist anymore (at the Fed).

I own it.
- The People’s Bank of China owns it.
- The Reserve Bank of India owns it.
- The central bank of Russia owns it.

But the people of Germany (and America)...... don’t own it.”

Well it's 2am
- and I think that the above (barring an unforeseen black swan event) paints a favourable outlook for metals prices.
- and incidentally if the Morgue fully settled it's outstanding comex deliveries for May ?? and June
- from it's dealer invent/ory
- it would be nearly 100,000 oz....short (ie negative)

Goodnight.