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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 14 Nov 2013 22:57 - 32840 of 81564

You're flapping in the wind H, the top down stuff could have been changed by now.

Haystack - 14 Nov 2013 23:03 - 32841 of 81564

The trusts manage their own budgets. The government has asked the trusts to specify how many nurses it has on duty at any time due to low levels of cover.

MaxK - 14 Nov 2013 23:12 - 32842 of 81564

Where do the trusts get their money from?

MaxK - 14 Nov 2013 23:34 - 32843 of 81564



Roma community must be sensitive to British culture – Nick Clegg

Community's behaviour can be offensive, Nick Clegg says as David Blunkett tells government to recognise numbers here


Patrick Wintour, political editor


The Guardian, Thursday 14 November 2013 21.25 GMT

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/14/roma-community-sensitive-british-culture-nick-clegg


Nick Clegg warned the Roma community in Sheffield not to behave in an intimidatory way.


Nick Clegg has warned the Roma community in Sheffield not to be behave in an intimidatory way, as the former home secretary David Blunkett urged the government to do more to recognise the scale of the settled Roma community in the UK.

Earlier this week Blunkett said Roma groups from Slovakia settled in a district of Sheffield were behaving as if in a "downtrodden village or woodland".

Speaking on LBC the deputy prime minister said: "Of course I am acutely aware of the tensions. David Blunkett has been very outspoken about it and he has every reason to be concerned as the constituency MP. I am not sure, bluntly, if it helps very many people in Page Hall for him to then lurch around saying it is the government's fault."

Clegg, MP for Sheffield Hallam, added: "There is a real dilemma … when you get communities coming into a part of our country and then they behave in a way that people find quite difficult to accept.

"They behave in a way that people find sometimes intimidating, sometimes offensive. I think it is quite right that people should say. And on this, if not many other things, I actually agree with David Blunkett.

"We have every right to say if you are in Britain and you are coming to live in Britain and you are bringing up a family here, you have got to be sensitive to the way that life is lived in this country."

Blunkett, MP for Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough, feels the government has not set out a strategy for this community, and has accused the Department of Communities of burying its head in the sand over the scale of Roma migration. A recent report by Salford University based on a local authority survey suggested there were nearly 197,000 settled Roma in the UK, when Blunkett said the government believed there were only 50,000.

Blunkett also insisted that he has never warned that the tensions in his Sheffield constiuency could lead to riots, although he did warn of a possible "explosion" between different communities in the city.

He said: "I was talking to a broadcast journalist as we walked through the community most affected in my constituency and referred to the fact that she had been working in Bradford and was familiar with the damage done to the community back in 2001, when tensions had led to divisions which then led outsiders to create havoc including the consequently disturbances."

The Salford study found local authorities appear to have little contact with most migrant Roma populations, suggesting a high level of self-sufficiency.

This was largely attributed to migrant Roma mainly from Slovakia "tending to be accommodated in private rented housing and not engaging, in any perceptible way, with local authority services or with key statutory partners".

Dave Brown at Migration Yorkshire said the lack of a full government strategy on Roma inclusion reduced local authorities' flexibility to use EU structural funds for Roma inclusion. But he denied there was a sudden new problem with the Roma community.

Blunkett had spoken out on BBC Radio Sheffield about the Roma groups from Slovakia who had settled in a district of the city. He added: "We've got to be tough and robust in saying to people you are not in a downtrodden village or woodland, because many of them don't even live in areas where there are toilets or refuse collection facilities.

"You are not there any more, you are here – and you've got to adhere to our standards, and to our way of behaving, and if you do then you'll get a welcome and people will support you."

He said in the summer there had been problems with Roma groups congregating on street corners. The conflict appears to have been greatest with the Pakistani community.

He added: "We have got to change the behaviour and the culture of the incoming Roma community, because there's going to be an explosion otherwise. We all know that."

When pressed about the likely impact of Bulgarians and Romanians coming to the UK at the turn of the year, Clegg refused to make any prediction, citing the failure of the previous Labour government to judge the impact of opening the doors to eight eastern European countries in 2004, which was earlier than required by the EU. The former Labour home secretary Jack Straw described the policy as a "spectacular mistake" this week.

Clegg said: "The lesson we've learned from the previous government is, don't make loads of predictions that turn out to be completely untrue, because that is what destroys or undermines public confidence even further."

But he defended the need for the country to remain open to immigration: "We are nothing as a nation if we don't stay open to the rest of the world."

He added: "I am a liberal. I think one of the great things about our country is that we are open-hearted and generous-minded. The NHS would keel over if it did not have people coming to this country to work for it. Of course we should welcome people that want to play by the rules, pay their taxes and contribute to public life."

He pointed out that there are lots of people that come to Britain and then invest and create jobs, and medical professionals who come to treat British patients.

goldfinger - 15 Nov 2013 04:49 - 32844 of 81564

Flapping Hays flapping on the NHS A@E

Look the Tory government are in charge so dont blame it on trust management who could be fired at the drop of an hat.

Admit your lot are making a right cock up of it instead of trying to switch blame. Nos 10 know they face a tough winter see my guido falks post at beginning of yesterday.

goldfinger - 15 Nov 2013 04:52 - 32845 of 81564

Hays here you are from the inside at nos 10.......................

NOVEMBER 14TH, 2013

No.10 ‘Crippled With Fear’ Over Coming NHS Crisis



As Dave jets off on another one of his travelling salesman tours, he leaves behind a Downing Street operation in a bit of a flap. There is a growing mood within No. 10 and Whitehall that as the good economic news keeps coming, and recovery strengthens the government’s self-claimed central purpose will slip down the agenda. Instead of talking about the economy, the next couple of years will focus on other issues and problems. The NHS, Universal Credit and Romanian/Bulgarian immigration are causing the most sleepless nights.

Sources claim Craig Oliver is particularly concerned about the NHS and a bucket of bad news set to come down the line. Crisis talks have been held between the Department of Health, No. 10 and the Cabinet Office. When Department of Health officials were asked when the good news from the NHS reforms would start to trickle through, the reply was “never”. Winter is coming, and one SpAd tells Guido the Tories are ‘crippled with fear’, if it is a cold winter, fuel poverty and the NHS will come together as a perfect storm, with higher senior citizen mortality…


Stan - 15 Nov 2013 08:18 - 32846 of 81564

Is anyone else listening to this time wasting Tory backslider Hunt on R4 now?

MaxK - 15 Nov 2013 08:34 - 32847 of 81564

Amazon urged to withdrew 'racist' golly fancy dress costume

Amazon, the online retail giant, have not responded to calls for the golly fancy dress costume, based on a racist character, to be removed from their website





By Hayley Dixon

7:53AM GMT 15 Nov 2013



Amazon has been urged to withdraw an “offensive and demeaning” fancy dress costume of a golly.


The outfit, based upon the racist character, is advertised on the online retail giant's website as an Adult Golly Fancy Dress Costume priced at £39.99, reduced from £47.99.


It is not the only Golly item for sale on the site, as a search for the term returned 3,846 results.


Amongst other items Amazon advertises “Golly” soft toys, a “Traditional Golliwog” in Scottish fancy dress for £12.99, A “Golly design” ceramic mug for £3.95, a “Golly Golliwog Golliwogg Key Ring” for £6.99 and an “I love Golly” baby bib for £7.02.


Helen Pattison, of Britain's Youth Against Racism, told the Sun: "Yet again Amazon has shown they will sell highly offensive and demeaning products, as long as they can make a profit."



More outrage here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10451228/Amazon-urged-to-withdrew-racist-golly-fancy-dress-costume.html

Fred1new - 15 Nov 2013 09:28 - 32848 of 81564

Hays.

One of Maggie's brilliant ideas, which was for many the root of the NHS problems and produced change after change, loss of continuity and loss moral in the service.

It was the beginning of telling the medical profession that they were business men and many went out to prove it.

"In 1990, the National Health Service & Community Care Act (in England) defined this "internal market", whereby Health Authorities ceased to run hospitals but "purchased" care from their own or other authorities' hospitals. Certain GPs became "fund holders" and were able to purchase care for their patients. The "providers" became NHS trusts, which encouraged competition but also increased local differences."



They were taught to watch their back pockets and not the patient's condition.

2517GEORGE - 15 Nov 2013 09:30 - 32849 of 81564

'Nick Clegg warned the Roma community in Sheffield not to behave in an intimidatory way'.
That's bound to sort them out then.
2517

MaxK - 15 Nov 2013 10:09 - 32850 of 81564

Haystack - 15 Nov 2013 10:29 - 32851 of 81564

This what happens to socialist leaders.

François Hollande hits new lows

François Hollande's popularity now stands at 15 per cent amongst French public

Francois Hollande is the most unpopular French president in history

11:50AM GMT 14 Nov 2013

François Hollande's approval rating has hit new lows, shedding six percentage points in a month with only 15 per cent of respondents now backing the beleaguered French president, a poll has found.

The finding is in line with other recent polls which have shown Mr Hollande's standing with voters tumbling after a brief upturn at the end of the summer.

Asked how they judged Mr Hollande's actions as president three per cent of respondents to the YouGov poll for the Huffington Post and said they had a very positive opinion and 12 per cent said it was positive.

Seventy-six per cent said they had a rather negative or very negative opinion. Nine per cent would not comment.

The downturn follows the exposure of record unemployment, rising taxes and weak growth amid a growing nationwide feeling of despondency due to job cuts and factory closures.

Haystack - 15 Nov 2013 10:41 - 32852 of 81564

Al-Qaeda-linked rebels have said sorry for decapitating a fellow extremist by accident.

Militant Islamist rebels in Syria linked to al-Qaeda have asked for "understanding and forgiveness" for cutting off and putting on display the wrong man's head

Knife-wielding members of Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham were shown in a video triumphantly displaying a bearded head before a crowd.

But the head was recognised from the video as belonging to a member of Ahrar al-Sham, a Sunni Islamist rebel group that often fights alongside ISIS.

After inquiries, an ISIS spokesman admitted he was the wrong man.

Sheepishly explaining the error rebels made reference to a story in which Mohammed said Allah would forgive a man who killed a believer in error.

The news comes after Al-Qaeda took to Twitter to show users how to "kindly" cut off a human head... because they don't want to seem violent.

An article in the Lebanese daily al-Safir examined al-Qaeda's increasing use of social media networks and media technology in spreading its ideology.

Fred1new - 15 Nov 2013 12:48 - 32853 of 81564

I think the clothes peg should be on the other's nose.

With a a note saying the shiny arse is in town.


doodlebug4 - 15 Nov 2013 16:25 - 32854 of 81564

“The Indians have successfully launched a rocket to Mars,” says Rod Liddle in The Sun. “This, despite being unable to feed half their population. It is now seemingly compulsory for all recipients of UK aid to send rockets pinging across the solar system. Perhaps the Indian rocket will bump into Nigeria’s on its way? Yep, they’ve got one too.The bloke heading India’s space programme said spending billions on a rocket is good for their morale.Yeah, sure. Not for the morale of every UK taxpayer, though.”

2517GEORGE - 15 Nov 2013 16:40 - 32855 of 81564

Nor the starving in India.
2517

Fred1new - 15 Nov 2013 16:59 - 32856 of 81564

DB.

Check the cost of the recent rocket. I bet the Americans wish they could do it for the stated price.

Check the cost against technical advances in the overall economy by the research and investment going into the the space adventure and the overall benefits to the economic development.

Perhaps, they may be should still drive a donkey and cart or a push bike, rather than a car.

The spin offs are the important gains.

doodlebug4 - 15 Nov 2013 18:06 - 32857 of 81564

Have you been to India, Fred? They have cows walking down the high streets there - and I'm talking about the four-legged ones! I just think, when I vote for whichever party I would like to govern this country, that it doesn't give them the right to chuck any part of my tax contributions to an overseas country. If I choose to send money to India, Rwanda, Nigeria etc.etc.etc. then I can do that of my own choice. Personally I would rather see my tax contributions contributing to the main problems in my own country - particularly our NHS.

goldfinger - 15 Nov 2013 18:41 - 32859 of 81564

WOW thats a first alders.
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