Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

fred

I also have some knowledge by association regarding GPs and doctors in general. The experiences recounted to me match cynic's view pretty accurately.

I don't recognise your version of life as a doctor compared to what I am told by friends doing the job at the moment.

Stop digging, you are appearing more and more idiotic.

Or go to your leader, who has a u-turn up every sleeve for use after his ill-thought out pronouncements for advice of what to write next.

Mind, I can read you posting and your opinions with a sense of amusement.

But do make them shorter.

8-)

Hays,

You are probably believing the propaganda of some, as it is to your taste and suits the position you wish to hold.

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There are many well run and organised practices in primary and secondary health systems, but there is also a lot of part-timers who are being paid full-timers salaries.

There are a also a lot of inefficiencies in the health service, some of which suit some of the practitioners. Also, there is still an lot of professional protectionism practised within the health service. The latter is getting less, but it is still there.

Why does Fred waste his time on here with all his vast knowledge of running the country , why doesn't he ran for Parliament as an Independent.

Independent Gobshite Party! :O)

Chris

Been playing a lot of chess on that site, 30 minute games and a few at 10 minutes , been having trouble with the game being disconnected sometimes and if its my turn to move i run out of time and even if its my opponets turn to move it says i lost on time. Funny but i seem to win a lot of my 10 minute games , a thought that was a young persons advantage playing quick.

ald

I'm not good enough to play a 10 minute game, doubt I ever will be :O)
3 day suits me at mo, guy I have been playing for a while now makes one move a day., another guy makes ten, doesn't really matter whatever you decide.,

It is OK though overseas investment into Britain will save it.

Hays Hays Hays

Looks like a new all time low for fat Dave.............

electionista‏@electionista22h
UK - Opinium/Observer poll: CON 28%, LAB 37%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 16%


UKIP picking up votes.

Update - Labour lead at 6
by YouGov in Politics
Sun November 17, 2013 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 15th November - Con 33%, Lab 39%, LD 10%, UKIP 12%;

With the dim/libs only getting 9/10% in the polls....what will that do to their seat numbers?

If it stayed like that then their numbers would fall a bit. The Libs are lucky that they have quite a few safe seats. The percentage figure is across the country. That is not so important as there are seats that they would never take. What really counts is the percentage level in the seats that they hold. The very same demographics that help the Libs are the same as stop UKIP from getting seats.

i am much amused
fred's superior intellect thinks that no one will have noticed that he has shifted his line of attack on GPs

it started out at how inefficient and lazy GPs were

because that line of attack was fairly well demolished by today's facts, it has now rather shifted to how GPs are overpaid - but again tempered as a safeguard to "oh well, it's actually some part-time staff who get full-time salaries, and perhaps some practices aren't as efficient as they might be" ..... which either cannot be substantiated, or these part-timers have specific skills or somesuch that makes them worth extra pay

as usual, full-o'-shit-fred rants rubbish from his soapbox .... no doubt he'll now try to divert that by casting silly aspersions at me (well, that is his usual and predictable line)

Yes Haystack, any newcomer party has a big mountain to climb.

Altho, if results like this crop up, UKIP may actually get some seats, people are pissed off with more of the same from the 3 major parties.



Eastleigh by-election result


02.19 Liberal Democrats have won the seat with 13352 votes. The Conservatives have been knocked into third place by UKIP.

Here are the results in full:

Mike Thornton (LD) 13,342 (32.06%, -14.48%)

Diane James (UKIP) 11,571 (27.80%, +24.20%)

Maria Hutchings (Con) 10,559 (25.37%, -13.96%)

John O'Farrell (Lab) 4,088 (9.82%, +0.22%)

Danny Stupple (Ind) 768 (1.85%, +1.56%)

Dr Iain Maclennan (NHA) 392 (0.94%)

Ray Hall (Beer) 235 (0.56%)

Kevin Milburn (Christian) 163 (0.39%)

Howling Laud Hope (Loony) 136 (0.33%)

Jim Duggan (Peace) 128 (0.31%)

David Bishop (Elvis) 72 (0.17%)

Michael Walters (Eng Dem) 70 (0.17%, -0.30%)

Daz Procter (TUSC) 62 (0.15%)

Colin Bex (Wessex Reg) 30 (0.07%)

Liberal Democrat majority: 1,771 (4.26%)

Swing: 19.34% Liberal Democrat to UKIP

Electorate: 79,004 Turnout: 41,616 (52.68%, -16.61%)


This is the result last time around in 2010:

Huhne (LD) 24,966 (46.53%)

Hutchings (C) 21,102 (39.33%)

Barraclough (Lab) 5,153 (9.60%)

Finch (UKIP) 1,933 (3.60%)

Pewsey (Eng Dem) 249 (0.46%)

Stone (Ind) 154 (0.29%)

Low (Nat Lib) 93

Liberal Democrat majority 3,864 (7.20%) Turnout 53,650 (69.28%)


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/byelection/9901479/Eastleigh-by-election-result-live.html

That's about the size of it for UKIP, "may actually get some seats". In other words they are unlikely to make any serious impact and are unlikely to get any seats. Therefore any vote for them is wasted.nIf you want a referendum on the EU then you need the Conservatives to win. UKIP won't be able to give you a referendum. That will be Cameron's strategy.

income tax contribution
i was amazed to read that the top 1% of income tax payers contribute 30% of total income tax revenue, and i see no reason to doubt that analysis

whether the likes of philip green fall into that category, i really don't know, but to snip the obvious line of attack from the soapbox queens - it's no good complaining of immorality if some people choose to legally avoid paying maximum tax, or put the other way, to pay only the minimum ..... the tax man lacks any moral scruples at all, and if you want to block certain loopholes then the law has to be changed, though assuredly that will just open other avenues

Green never payed a penny in income tax on that 2005 huge dividend. Put through offshore accounts and then filtered out to Monaco.

If he off loads BHS, I wonder if he will be sniffing round Marks. He will then turn its clothes into no more than you would see in a market.(cheap and nasty) Hmmmmm

i agree that it really does stick in the throat, but like i said above ......

pretty much a rhetorical question, where does one draw the line, or ultimately, is it (not) just a personal choice provided that the law is obeyed?