for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

bosley
i have read all the posts on this thread. my commentwas not a criticism of SEO, just an observation of the market in general. i watch a lot of stocks and almost without exception the share retraces after good news. however big a fan i am of a stock i will sell a fair nunber on good news. nearly always manage to buy back later, cheaper, with few quid in the bank.

6p barrier has been there for over a year will . . hangon, nobody is partying yet. speaking for myself , i have been on the look out for a company with a good story , a good product and loads of potential. seo ticks my boxes. all companies are a risk, (cf jarvis,pretty much every tech stock in 2001, mytravel,etc.)but seo have something that is quite new , that companies like , that will be legislation driven and has bags of potential. the patent dispute with bprg HAS been overdone. damages wont be that severe because not a lot of money was earned by seo . basically , bprg now get a finished product that THEY can make big bucks from . good luck to them. back to seo . some companies have already signed up to use seos packaging technology , some are at trial stage . you cannot deny the massive potential here, even if it is merely putting lids on things. putting lids on things will bring in an extra 4million this year just from one company , and 4million next year from the same company . get afew of them going, as they are trying to do , and you get good profits. sounds pretty good to me . i DO agree with you that the seo management could have handled all this shit better. but , as i have said before, its this mangaement team that have developed this company from a welding company to one which has the potential to make serious money in the future.its been said before , and i will repeat it for hangon , because he seems to think we are all lemmings ready to fall off the cliff. it will be a good day when this dispute is over, when the uncertainty is gone,when calim and counter claim is settled and we all know the end figures. until then this is all mere speculation . people who have put money into seo are taking the view that damages will not be so severe that seo will crumble. it may hurt but the future will still be bright.as you say about life, its a gamble.

Here, Here Bosley....I look on SEO as PDX 18 months ago only better cos' they are cheaper than PDX were and already in trials with the big boys. This share is a big gamble but if it pays off could easily be a ten bagger or more.

Like your thoughts dynamite, i'm in PDX as well, both companies fantastic futures ahead and you can add BPRG to that too...

AdieH...I would add BPRG as well but my funds are all tied up at the mo.I've also got NOP, KMR, YOO and several other long term goodies.

Good Luck with those, I hold various others but like you all cash tied up for now...

IMO
you going to need a rights isuee to fund BPRG damages.

if thats the case , then so be it .

Oh go away predator22, post something sensible, justify that daft comment... How old are you?

adie , calm down . dont let the bed bugs bite.

Lol i'm OK i hold SEO and very happy to be, you heard anything today from the court case Bosley?

no nothing heard . but i did find this piece on iii. copied it , nope the author doesnt mind but i think its interesting , although it doesnt tell us much that we do not already know.

"Just to clarify the court case and the future prospects (for those new to Stanelco). Rather than 'HOLD' I would have put 'Good Gamble' if it had been a choice.

The court proceedings were in fact issued by SEO seeking declaratory relief i.e. clarification of the ownership of three families of patents. BPRG claimed an interest (either full or joint) in three families of patent filed by SEO on the grounds that the patents were based on discoveries made by BPRG and disclosed under a non-disclosure agreement between the parties as part of a proposed joint project. The result of the court case was that SEO retained two of the patent families (Christopher Floyd QC The second and third families of claims involved a further inventive concept devised by Stanelco, which was not simply a refinement of the core concept, so that Stanelco but not Bioprogress was the inventor of those claims) and lost the third, BPRG being awarded outright ownership of the master patent that gives it exclusive worldwide rights to the process of making capsules from non gelatin materials by means of radio frequency (RF). However SEO are challenging the verdict on the third and have already stated that 'tray lidding technology is unaffected by the current patent dispute with BPRG and is now the major driver of future revenue within SEO's business'.
I quote from Hargreaveslansdown (Brough likes Stanelco's risk reward) Nov 6th 2004:
Schroder's A-rated star smaller companies manager Brough recently picked up 29 million Stanelco (SEO) shares at 4p despite the group's recent problems. @Stanelco has found a way of using RF technology to seal food packages, which at present are heat-sealed. Patents relating to this part of the business are separate to the family of patents BioProgress has claimed as its ownA number of big packaging firms, such as Grampian, are commercially testing the technology at the moment and Stanelco hopes large orders are not far off. The plan is to charge firms that have their packing machines converted to use Stanelco's technology about 35% of the cost savings on raw materials.

Management reckons this will be equivalent to approximately 35,000 per machine per year.
These revenues would be recurring and with about 25,000 tray-lidding machines (think of the packaging for a steak bought from the supermarket) and 20,000 termoformers (the flat packaging for smoke salmon from the supermarket) operating worldwide the market is big if the technology is as good as management boast.
This article was taken from the website www.citywire.co.uk.

Although it will be a blow if SEO fail to win the lost patent (as IMO they will) and will have to pay substantial costs, it will only affect the share price until the trials are completed. Then it will be the outcome of the tray sealing trials, and if successful, the subsequent take up of the technology by a major company, and further applications of the technology that will drive the share price. So its a gambledont put your pension on it."

so thats where he sold his shares.........

guessing this was written before the asda announcement.

Seen that before but thanks for posting.

Stanelco PLC
01 December 2004


1 December 2004



Stanelco PLC

Re Court Case


In the latest development in its continuing dispute with BioProgress Technology
Limited, Stanelco RF Technologies Limited went back to court yesterday to argue
that evidence which had come to light within the last few weeks meant that the
court should reverse its finding of breach of confidence by Stanelco.


Stanelco's case was that the documents which had been found showed that the
information which BioProgress had argued at trial was confidential had actually
been in the public domain for over 40 years.


After a full day's hearing, the court reserved its judgement due to the
complexity of the issues which needed to be considered.


After the hearing, Ian Balchin, Chief Executive Officer of Stanelco, commented:


'We regard the fact that the court has needed to reserve its decision as an
indication of the seriousness of the point we've raised and its implications for
both parties. We look forward to receiving the court's decision. If Stanelco's
application is successful, we will not be liable to BioProgress at all in
respect of its claim for breach of confidence. If we don't succeed then, leaving
aside any costs issues, we'll be in just the same position as we are now'.


- Ends -

Yes this is interesting... Another RNS also regarding tray liding technology... Can't really see this decision going SEO's way but what do I know...

No i agree, but i think his comments again underline that an awareness of the possible worst case exists at SEO and they are not over concerned. Also i still think its already in the price which is why yet again any favourable news moves the price on.IMO

Way back on post96 I suggested >50p potential share price. Glad to see more people believe(hope) this possibility. Topped up again last week but held some funds back just in case we see 5p after the cc sorted. Lets hope for the ten bagger!! and possibly more. Earlier poster questioning profit from tray lidding, IT DOES THE JOB, IT SAVES MONEY, REDUCES TONNES PLASTIC, REDUCES PACKAGING/PRODUCT WASTE AND HAS THE BACKING OF THE RETAILERS WHO CAN AND DO SPECIFY TO THE PACKERS.It will make a lot of money once adopted, it may have a life-span but we could all make a killing over the next few years.
Asda trialling, possibly Sainsburys, can't wait for Tescos and Morrisons!! not forgetting the bio film, McDonalds?
So much potential!!!

good afternoon gents. i think this is quite wonderful. the judge has gone from being very anti seo , to reserving judgement.far from being done and dusted this could now very much swing our way. if it is proven that the info was in the public domain , then bprg cant claim the patent. neither can seo. have i read it wrong? does this only affect the claim against breach of confidentiality? oh dear , its all gone confusing again........

SEO are certainly dragging this one out! lETS ADMIT DEFEAT AND GET ON WITH THINGS!!