Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

For the Cynic:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/17/1963-opinion-poll-westminster-public

Enough is enough Mr Cameron: Mail poll reveals voters' deep concern over wave of new migrants

82% of respondents said no to a new influx from Bulgaria and Romania
85% think migration was putting huge pressure on schools and hospitals
Only one in 20 think Brussels should be in charge of policies

Think tank Migrationwatch believes up to 70,000 migrants will arrive in 2014

By James Slack and Jack Doyle

PUBLISHED: 22:34, 21 November 2013 | UPDATED: 14:30, 22 November 2013



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511491/Daily-Mail-poll-reveals-voters-deep-concern-wave-new-migrants.html

i like the bit at the very bottom .....

which party do you trust most on immigration?

44% say none of them - which rather sums up the public's opinion of ALL politicians regardless of their persuasion

MK.

It appears to me that the questions are slanted to produce the responses the pollster required. The voting is made base on inadequate statements and information and appears to be to stimulate emotional bias.


But it is interesting to see the polling position of the CON party on trust.

After, the backlash from Cameron's smearing has settle down I would expect it will be lower.
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of course the questions were slanted .... why would you expect otherwise, especially from the likes of the daily mail ..... the guardian or the socialist worker or the sun or the sunday sport would also conduct any surveys and questions slanted towards the result required

Yep, the 44% answer is a shocker!

Perhaps people are waking up to these charlatans?

And if you asked the question, "who do you think is to blame for the immigrant problem?" what would the public say? They ought just to give a one word answer - Labour. Labour have admitted several times that they got it wrong.

Yes, but the tories have done sod all to solve it!

They have done quite a bit and were fought every inch of the way by Labour. There were so many cock ups left by Labour it hasn't been possible to fix them all in three years. Don't forget that Labour had thirteen years to screw things up and they used every minute to make stupid decisions. The Conservatives have had a mere three years to fix the mess and put it all back together.

Hays.

The present Con Party is a not a cock up, it is misconception.

Cameron seemed to consider himself a miracle worker, should like you stop bleating, engage his brain and start thinking rather the reacting off the cuff then start making properly considered actions.

His administration is a disaster.

Or possibly go to Michael Gov for remedial teaching.

I wonder what he plans for his retirement home in 2015.

Suggest the Cayman Isles.

WW2 only lasted 5years.


Suggest before you trying making excuses, bleating and blaming anyone other than your party, that you review John Major and Maastricht Treaty and the glorious Rebels.

What did they ratify.

They have done sod all!

They could have nipped it in the bud by changing the law, they did nothing!

And lets not get into universal benefits, we cant afford to pay hundreds of thousands of migrants to do sod all.

We have millions of people who are unemployed/don't want to work already, now they invite another load of freeloaders.


where is the money going to come from?

Feet of Clay.

Wait for the next U-turn.

i am very pleasantly surprised by the seeming speedy and sensible (commercial!) resolution of the issues with iran ..... how much the iranians are or think they are hoodwinking the amis (and other parties) is of course the great unknown

Last July, Miliband hailed the Co-op Bank as his preferred model for banking reform, saying that the bank had "always understood that ethics of responsibility, cooperation and stewardship must be at the heart of what you do."

It has since emerged that the church minister who was also a former Labour councillor had no formal qualifications or banking experience. Pressure is now building on Mr Miliband to explain why he appointed Flowers to a key role in Labour's finance advisory group.

It has also emerged that, at the time he was recruited by Miliband, Flowers had resigned from Bradford Council after pornographic material was found on his computer. One newspaper has claimed that the Labour party were aware of the reason for the resignation.

Weeks after Miliband appointing Flowers to his group, the Co-operative bank handed the Labour party a £1.2m loan.

Flowers would seem to be a con man and possibly a fraudster.

A bit like Cameron who has duped and is duping many around him.

How much have tax dodgers in Cayman Isles and such places cheated the UK out of returning some as bribes to the torrid party?

When you throw mud, be careful of the splashes.

Cameron and crew look grubby already, with varying forms of kick backs to mates in the city.

The list is growing and I think with Crosby advising the "boys" it is going to be a very dirty election.

With the droves leaving the tory party and taking their payrolls with them, I would still back the Labour to win the next election.

Especially, as some of the results of the austerity programmes to kick in and the false interpretation of data being exposed.

It is no use trying to deflect attention from Miliband and Labour. The Flowers story begins and ends at Labour's door.