Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

i am very pleasantly surprised by the seeming speedy and sensible (commercial!) resolution of the issues with iran ..... how much the iranians are or think they are hoodwinking the amis (and other parties) is of course the great unknown

Last July, Miliband hailed the Co-op Bank as his preferred model for banking reform, saying that the bank had "always understood that ethics of responsibility, cooperation and stewardship must be at the heart of what you do."

It has since emerged that the church minister who was also a former Labour councillor had no formal qualifications or banking experience. Pressure is now building on Mr Miliband to explain why he appointed Flowers to a key role in Labour's finance advisory group.

It has also emerged that, at the time he was recruited by Miliband, Flowers had resigned from Bradford Council after pornographic material was found on his computer. One newspaper has claimed that the Labour party were aware of the reason for the resignation.

Weeks after Miliband appointing Flowers to his group, the Co-operative bank handed the Labour party a £1.2m loan.

Flowers would seem to be a con man and possibly a fraudster.

A bit like Cameron who has duped and is duping many around him.

How much have tax dodgers in Cayman Isles and such places cheated the UK out of returning some as bribes to the torrid party?

When you throw mud, be careful of the splashes.

Cameron and crew look grubby already, with varying forms of kick backs to mates in the city.

The list is growing and I think with Crosby advising the "boys" it is going to be a very dirty election.

With the droves leaving the tory party and taking their payrolls with them, I would still back the Labour to win the next election.

Especially, as some of the results of the austerity programmes to kick in and the false interpretation of data being exposed.

It is no use trying to deflect attention from Miliband and Labour. The Flowers story begins and ends at Labour's door.

Huff and puff compared with the puppetry of the tories and their puppeteers living as tax exiles, or hiding behind trusts and Ph businesses.

And is living as a tax exile illegal? No it is not. If you don't like the tax regulations then get them changed. Of course I forgot, you don't vote. In that case you have no legitimate opinion.

How much change did Labour make to the tax regulations? The answer, as we all know is no change at all in 13 years!

Co-op fiasco, fairly and squarely at the feet of Millipede, Ballsup and the Labour party. (F)Red1 needs to look to his own failings, he is completely incapable of giving unbiased views, he allows his profound hatred for ALL things Tory prevent him from giving anything like reasoned arguments.
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just a general cock-up and mess all round, but let's face it, it really is not exactly important despite all the huff and puff in the press, with another gargantuan dollop of tripe added in here

And the cost of the enquiry, which is a political stunt.

I think Attorney general Dominic Grieve should look closer at home when he investigates corruption,

Especially, when the cabinet looks like and Eton old boys clubs.

And the cost of the enquiry, which is a political stunt.

I think Attorney general Dominic Grieve should look closer at home when he investigates corruption,

Especially, when the cabinet looks like and Eton old boys clubs.

for goodness sake fred, just crawl back under your stone until you emerge at least as a dragon fly instead of just the bitter and twisted old man you currently portray

The Attorney General is 100% correct. Immigrants come to the UK and bring with them their practice's. Some countries such as Nigeria run completely on corruption. I have a friend who worked in Lagos and it was necessary to bribe your way day to day. You bribe the police to get your documents back when they are checked. You bribe your way to the electricity put on etc. Pakistan is the same. When you have a concentration of one ethnicity in an area, corruption within the area begins. If it is not stopped you gradually adopt these practice's into the wider population. We have already adopted bad influences and we don't want any more.

cynic
I was down your way yesterday in Wokingham at Mighty Micro's funeral. I spoke to Bullshare (Mike Boydell) about the posters on this BB. He has an interesting take on the whole thing. If I ever meet you, I will tell more.

Where is gf today?

Cameron to clampdown on migrants’ rights to benefits

The Prime Minister is to unveil a series of measures to limit migrants’ rights to benefits in response to growing public pressure for change

David Cameron is to impose tougher constraints on migrants’ access to benefits to discourage a flood of newcomers when Britain’s borders are opened to Bulgaria and Romania next year.

The Prime Minister is attempting to respond to growing public pressure to limit immigration from the European Union, which came top of a wishlist of issues people want to see renegotiated with Brussels in a recent YouGov survey.

Tightening UK border controls claimed 30 per cent more votes then the next two highest ranking priorities people want to see discussed with Europe, which were human rights reform and expanding non-EU trade.

Mr Cameron has not yet given details of the specific powers he plans to try and wrestle back from Brussels before the promised 2017 referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU.

He has promised to clampdown on “welfare tourism” and is due to unveil more details proposals to limit EU migrants rights to benefits next week, senior government figures have claimed.

Cameroon cannot change any of the above...he's just blowing smoke up our arses.

Britain faces opposition from the European Commission over plans to cut down on migrants’ access to child benefit, child tax credit and elements of job-seekers allowance for their first year in the country.

Migrants will have to prove they are actively looking for employment and have a realistic prospect of getting work under planned restrictions to jobseeker’s allowance.

There are growing concerns in Government about the dropping of border controls for Bulgarians and Romanians on January 1, which has already sparked a public outcry about the potential influx of Roma gypsies

Ministers insist the number of new arrivals will not compare with the 600,000 Eastern Europeans who flooded into Britain within two years after 2004.

But MigrationWatch UK has estimated that about 50,000 Romanians and Bulgarians a year will come to Britain.

Many Conservatives believe the change, which will lift all curbs on Romanians and Bulgarians entering the UK job market, will push more voters into supporting the UK Independence Party.

Mr Cameron is expected to push for a slackening of the freedom of trade directive to allow more time limit extensions and the introduction of new contributions eligibility tests on benefits.

But many Britons want to see the UK quit the directive entirely.

More than half the respondents of the YouGov poll carried out for The Times said they would give up their rights to live and work in other EU states in exchange for the closing of Britain’s borders.

Voters hostilities are largely focused on the less skilled migrants who are seeking low paid jobs, the survey revealed, with people’s taking a less tough stance on highly skilled workers, students and asylum seekers.

People’s concerns about immigration centre around increased pressure on public services while many others cite the shortage of housing and jobs as their main worry.

Next week’s immigration figures will reveal where the Government has overseen a reversal in the upward trend.

Too little, too late....Big Dave is toast come the next election.


Many Conservatives believe the change, which will lift all curbs on Romanians and Bulgarians entering the UK job market, will push more voters into supporting the UK Independence Party.

Mr Cameron is expected to push for a slackening of the freedom of trade directive to allow more time limit extensions and the introduction of new contributions eligibility tests on benefits.